Okay. I may be stupid, but this is the first time I've fooled around with cyberware suites.

I have created a suite containing a Control Rig, and two Datajacks. However, I've found the following problems:

1) Its grade is shown as 'Cummer.Grade', and even when created with higher grades (such as Alpha), the final essence cost is always 0,63, as if standard grade was used. The price is also always 9900 nuyen, and does not change with higher grades.
2) I fail to find an option to add this suite to a character in career mode. The 'Special' menu is missing the creation as well as the add options and I can't find the suites at all when adding cyberware.


So basically it boils down to:
How do I add a cyberware suite that's only available in a certain grade and how do I then add it to an existing character in career mode?

Does someone know how to work this?

How do you add extra points to the starting resources roll (100¥ each up to 3x the number of dice rolled to add +1 to the dice roll each)?

Bye
Thanee

You don't have to. Chummer takes this into account automatically, and accordingly to whatever your lifestyle is.

This already exists in Chummer, but is disabled by default: Options > Optional Rules > fourth item, "Allow Sills to be re-Grouped if all Ratings are the same (SR4 FAQ)"

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. I expect we'll see magicians get a karma refund from unbonding their bonded foci first.

As a workaround, there's always the Nuyen & Karma tab to enter such refunds.

Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. I expect. e'll see magicians get a karma refund from unbonding their bonded foci first.

As a workaround, there's always the Nuyen & Karma tab to enter such refunds.

i'm decent at coding, if someone could point me in the right direction I might be able to help.

Regarding the Totem's Way power, I honestly still wonder where it is Nebular is reading that the Totem's Way has access to the other Way's unique powers. The Magician's Way also chooses another Way for their favored powers list, and like the Totem's Way doesn't say anything about gaining access to their unique power.

I remember reading the Totems way as you get to choose a power that fits with the mentor spirit creature ? maybe I got it wrong.

anyways. if you buy the correct adept way, then buy Totem's way "for free" .. you can allocate the powers as normal then Remove the Totem's way quality

as a work around it .. works but is not ideal

Nebular, is there a particular reason why having any cyberlimb does not change your unarmed attack from Stun to Physical? Reference SR4a, page 343.

Was wondering, how difficult would it be to have the option to combine karma and nuyen journals into a single list?

Most entries I am finding I am adjusting both karma and nuyen anyway. The handful of times I don't, just entering a zero value would work. Entering a ton of entries is a pain if I have to enter them twice.

Also, possibly eliminating the seconds digit from the time entry would be nice, especially when manually adjusting the time. Or even a way to disable time tracking completely, just tracking date.

-k

Partially, yes. Only the damage from that particular limb is Physical, the rest of your unarmed attacks are still technically Stun. Since Cyberlimbs don't create a Weapon entry for themselves, it made more sense to leave it as it currently is. I might look into creating Weapons for Cyberlimbs in the future.

Unseen hands (Adepts Way) requires "The Totems way" in error, this is the Invisible way power

Regarding the Totem's Way power, I honestly still wonder where it is Nebular is reading that the Totem's Way has access to the other Way's unique powers. The Magician's Way also chooses another Way for their favored powers list, and like the Totem's Way doesn't say anything about gaining access to their unique power.

I remember reading the Totems way as you get to choose a power that fits with the mentor spirit creature ? maybe I got it wrong.

anyways. if you buy the correct adept way, then buy Totem's way "for free" .. you can allocate the powers as normal then Remove the Totem's way quality

as a work around it .. works but is not ideal

Totem's Way is poorly written in several ways. It's not explicit that Totem's Way includes Mentor Spirit for free (implied and I'm pretty sure it does since it is 5 pts more than the other Ways). It says that the Adept gets to choose the "favored powers" (but that term is not used anywhere else) of another Way appropriate to their totem. However, the rest of the sentence mentioning favored powers makes it pretty clear it is talking about the list of powers the other Way gets for a 25% discount (which does not include any of the new Way-specific powers).

The Magician's Way is the same, where you get to choose the list of favored powers from another way. However, the Totem's Way gives you up to four more powers above and beyond that of the other way's list you choose.

Yeah, The Totem's Way is a bit of a mess. I've read it a few times and from what I can see, they are able to select any of the Powers listed in the New Powers section of the book since they are all the favored Powers of the other Ways. This would make Totem's Way one of the two possible requirements for meeting those Powers' requirements.

Yeah, The Totem's Way is a bit of a mess. I've read it a few times and from what I can see, they are able to select any of the Powers listed in the New Powers section of the book since they are all the favored Powers of the other Ways. This would make Totem's Way one of the two possible requirements for meeting those Powers' requirements.

Adepts who follow the Totem’s Way have chosen to follow an
animal or other mentor spirit, and are sometimes called followers of
the Animal Way.  They are often aware of the spiritual side of their
magic, rather than the practical when compared to other adepts.
Adepts with this Quality may choose one other Way’s list of favored
powers as appropriate to their Mentor Spirit, and purchase those
powers at a 25 percent discount (rounding as normal), selecting one
power for every two Magic Points.  They do not get the other benefits
of that Way.

That's the confusion the rest of us are having in this. "Adepts with this Quality may choose one other Way’s list of favored powers as appropriate to their Mentor Spirit, and purchase those powers at a 25 percent discount (rounding as normal), selecting one power for every two Magic Points.  They do not get the other benefits of that Way." No where does it say they get to choose the exclusive power of that other Way. The lists of powers of the other ways are apparently definitive, and do not include the extra power you gain access to depending on the chosen way. I've also not found anywhere where it seems to even hint at that exclusive power being part of the list of discountable powers.

But if you're going to stick by this, allowing the Totem's Way to have access to the other Ways' powers, then you'll want to add the Magician's Way to that as well, as that quality is worded exactly the same Way about being able to choose one other Way's list of favored powers.

On the flip side, if there's enough call for it here, I certainly can write up an override XML file for those who want the Totem's Way excluded from the other powers.

I agree with your reading of Totem's Way (and Magician's Way) - they do not grant access to the new Way-specific powers.

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2) Totem's way, why is it 15BP , 5 over the other ways, yet doesn't give the power, and doesn't on my reading of it give a mentor spirit either ?
surely you would need to Be a Mystic Adept first and then apply this PQ to your exisiting mentor spirit.

but actually, selecting another way that is actually appropriate to your mentor is both cheaper in BP AND gives you the Adept way power?

2) It costs 15 BP because that's what the book says. My reading of it is that it includes the cost of Mentor Spirit (based on wording and that it is more expensive than other Ways by the cost of mentor spirit). You do lose the Way-specific power of going with another Way. However, you do gain an additional four discounted powers over whatever other Way you chose (unless they were already included in the other Way's list).

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1) CHUMMER Based - I am an invisible way adept and buy the PQ, Chummer still gives the error message that I ALSO need the Totem's Way PQ when trying to buy Unseen Hands

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It doesn't do that because the perception pool does not know if it's supposed be thrown as a visual, aural or other perception test

Decided to poke around and test the Street Ninja and Sharpshooter qualities. I found that Street Ninja can only be taken once despite it explicitly saying within the quality's description that it may be taken twice.

Regarding Sharpshooter, and it may take some discussion on this one, but I for one would think that the Reflex Recorders for the skill groups that include the required Infiltration and Longarms skills should be included for taking the Sharpshooter quality. Like taking the Reflex Recorder (Firearms) meets the the requirement for taking the Reflex Recorder (Longarms).

That's the confusion the rest of us are having in this. "Adepts with this Quality may choose one other Way’s list of favored powers as appropriate to their Mentor Spirit, and purchase those powers at a 25 percent discount (rounding as normal), selecting one power for every two Magic Points.  They do not get the other benefits of that Way." No where does it say they get to choose the exclusive power of that other Way. The lists of powers of the other ways are apparently definitive, and do not include the extra power you gain access to depending on the chosen way. I've also not found anywhere where it seems to even hint at that exclusive power being part of the list of discountable powers.

But if you're going to stick by this, allowing the Totem's Way to have access to the other Ways' powers, then you'll want to add the Magician's Way to that as well, as that quality is worded exactly the same Way about being able to choose one other Way's list of favored powers.

On the flip side, if there's enough call for it here, I certainly can write up an override XML file for those who want the Totem's Way excluded from the other powers.

Holy crap, I love this feature! Thanks to whoever suggested it and thank you Nebular for implementing it!

No news on the cyber suites front? I still feel like an idiot for being unable to implant a suite into a character in career mode.

Fantastic program, and it keeps getting better!

I'm sure it's been asked before, but...

Are you considering a networked environment allowing people in a game to use Chummer as a linked character sheet for everyone? Perhaps even linking the die roller to show rolls?

Maybe a DM function to keep the NPC sheets hidden?

Thorguild

Decided to poke around and test the Street Ninja and Sharpshooter qualities. I found that Street Ninja can only be taken once despite it explicitly saying within the quality's description that it may be taken twice.

Regarding Sharpshooter, and it may take some discussion on this one, but I for one would think that the Reflex Recorders for the skill groups that include the required Infiltration and Longarms skills should be included for taking the Sharpshooter quality. Like taking the Reflex Recorder (Firearms) meets the the requirement for taking the Reflex Recorder (Longarms).

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