When dealing with possession based traditions, how do you replace materialization with possession/inhabitation in the spirit character?

Er... good question! I'll add a checkbox the Select Metatype window when creating a Spirit to show they're being summoned by a Possess-based Tradition user which will replace Materialization with Possession in the next update.

Another question, how to you add a power back after it's been deleted.
I deleted Materialization thinking maybe that's what I needed to do, and there was no way to add it back.
I was thinking that the add powers should list all optional powers not added as well as all standard powers no in the list.
Could also have it so that if materialization and possession are missing have them both listed in the powers list.
Once one is added remove the other from the list.

Could you make an entry in the "unarmed weapon" section for normal fists?
Would be very usefull for adepts that want to see how much damage they do with their adept powers and normal fists without "hardliner gloves" since they are classified as weapons.

I was trying to make a Free Spirit, and it said I had four slots for choosing Powers. When I went to choose any power, it gave me an error. :\

Martial Arts (Boxing) doesn't add the DV modifier per rating, don't know if it applies for other martial arts aswell.
Could you also add a unarmed attack "weapon" against barriers? Just for the adepts with smashing blow so we don't need to calculate it everytime

When I create a Force 5 Spirit of Man, might happen with other spirit types not checked yet, I end up with -410 BP.
When I have possession in the powers list I don't see anything in the menu items to select what it's possessing.

This is how Critters have always worked. They don't follow the standard character BP and creation rules, so they just show how many BP they would have consumed if they were a standard character with a 0 BP Metatype to give you an idea as to their approximate BP value. It's the non-existent Metatype BP cost that really screws it up. (They can have any number of Attributes at their Metatype maximum, Metatype BP cost of 0 with all of those Attributes, Powers, and Qualities is bonkers from a character standpoint but perfectly acceptable for Critters, etc.)

In order to Possess/Inhabit something, the Critter needs to be in Career Mode. The logic being that Spirits don't possess something while they're still being formed. Since there is no actual link between the Spirit, Vessel, and merged character, the possessed character would never be updated to reflect the erratic changes a Spirit is likely to go through in Create Mode. I have the how-to page for Possession and Inhabitation on the wiki.

I can add a house rule of the Metatype Attribute one.

You can only change the variables (multipliers) for Karma costs, not the actual formula itself. I'd need to know which ones you'd want to change and how before I can really determine if it's possible and how much work it would involve.

Living Persona And Bionode Changes:
Signal is based now based Two-Thirds Resonance, Round up, instead of half.

All persona stats start at Half Resonance, round down, plus Half the relevant Attribute, rounded up. No persona stat may be greater than resonance.

Complex Forms can only go as high as 1.5xresonance, round down, instead of 2x.

The starting limit on complex forms is now 3x Software, instead of Logic x 2.

technomancers now have a built in Biofeedback Filter equal to their Resonance, and it does not count against the limit on complex forms. Additionally, once play begins it is treated like any other complex form

Complex forms now have a flat Cost at character generation, and by karma, as well as for options. The cost depends on character creation method:
in BP gen:
Instead, each complex form has a flat cost of 3BP(like mage, and about double what a hacker pays for a tricked out program) per form, and the form starts with a rating equal to your Resonance.

Under karma and karmagen, complex forms now ALSO have a flat cost.
the Revised Karma value for complex forms is 2 karma per level, with no adjustments based on the rating.
Clarification: This means rating 1 is 2 karma. Rating 2 is two more karma, or 4. Rating 3 is two more karma, 6 total, etcetera etcetera.

Sprite Have Standardized Skills
Every sprite now has the following skills equal to their rating: Electronic Warfare, hacking, Computer, Data Search. For complex forms, they have Analyze and Browse. The programs that use these skills are still dependent on sprite type. (note that they do not have Software. Or, if they did, they would have a specific restriction against using threading)

Additionally, they have Cybercombat and an Attack program at half their rating, round down, unless they are a sprite type that already has better. All sprites can fight, but some are really BAD at it. They also have Edit, at half rating, round down.

Unrated Complex Forms don't cost against the starting complex form limit.
Control Rig is available as an unrated complex form
Expert System is also available as an unrated complex form, mostly for TMs that have Biowires.
Anything a hacker can run, a technomancer can learn as a CF. (borrowed slightly from the FAQ)

Smashing Blow is doing only twice the base DV, ignoring modifiers (Martial arts, bone lacing, critical strike, &c.). It is my understanding that these would apply, but would not be doubled. If your reading of this rule differs, it could always be a house rule.

Also, perhaps improvements should be groupable, and toggleable as groups. It would make mages' lives a bit easier.

EDIT: The weapon focus modification for weapons still caps at rating 6, not the new cap of 18.

That being said, amazing job with everything; love the new shiny features.

Awesome fix on spirits, but I noticed the Free Spirit PC doesn't get to choose between materialize and possession traditions - and when you select the type for Free Spirit 'critters', it doesn't give them either power either. I also noticed when you select a spirit critter (free or otherwise) it doesn't tell you the limit on how many powers it can have like it used to. Is this intentional?

Regarding that Nebular, here's the thread that I'm pulling values from.

Udoshi's Technomancer Houserules: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=36511

Some gratuitous copy-pasta, I know, but I at least cut it into slightly bite sized chunks. If these things are feasible, fantastic. If not, I'll just make my TM loving player make his characters by hand

Weapon Focus is now capped at 18. If your character already had a Weapon Focus, you'll need to remove it and re-add it so it picks up the new maximum Rating information.

I'll see what I can do about grouping Improvements. I know it's doable, they're just... slightly more complicated than most of the other stuff.

To me, the wording between Smashing Blow and the rules for breaking barries makes it sound as though everything should be doubled before making the Test. SR4 166 under Destroying Barries: The purcpoase of the attack test is to generate extra hits to add to the Damage Value. If the character got no hits, then only apply the base Damage Value., and SM 179 under Smashing Blow Multiply his base DV by 2 when performing an unarmed strike on a barrier or other static structure. So, to me at least, it sounds like the base damage is the amount of damage the character does to the barrier if they scored 0 Hits on the Test, which is then doubled from Smashing Blow. So if you had STR 4 and +1 DV from the Boxing Advantage (standard Unarmed attack for 3), you would double this number and use that as your base against a barrier (effectively 6). If you get any hits on the Test to strike the barrier, you would deal 6 + Hits damage since the Hits are not part of the base DV.

Weapon Foci of up to force 18 can be correctly added, but when adding the weapon modification to the associate melee weapon I cannot exceed rating 6.

The issue is that not all the mods are added for smashing blow, my prime runner adept with 15P base unarmed only does 12S with it.

Not sure whether this is a bug or if it's just me wrongly interpreting some of the rules, but shouldn't "improved ability (Spellcasting)" also increase the limit of spells you can buy at char gen? After all the power DOES say that it actually increases the ability's rating, so it's not just a dice pool modifier or anything.

Sor for Smashing Blow, should it instead be calculated as ((STR/2) * 2) + modifiers? Currently it's calculating at ((STR/2) + modifiers * 2). So a character with STR 4 and +1 DV from Boxing would do 3S with his normal Unarmed Attack and 5S with his Smashing Blow?

3) It seems that if skill groups are purchased to the maximum of rating 4 at character generation, the group locks once in career mode until I manually break the group

I'd like to add to this. one can't break up the group by buying a specialization. But that's what I usually do with my first karma.

I had issues with this and was going to post something similar, but then my friend and I did some reading. SR4A 121 states, "Only one specialization is allowed per skill, and specializations are not allowed for skill groups." It then refers you back to page 84 which basically repeats the information (multiple times under both the "Skill Groups" and "Specializations" headings).

From what we were able to piece together from our readings, skill groups aren't to be considered a collection of skills, but rather one skill that you aren't allowed to specialize in (seeing as how it really isn't one skill). Once that group is broken by purchasing one of the "sub-skills" up, then you can specialize as normal.

I'd like to add to this. one can't break up the group by buying a specialization. But that's what I usually do with my first karma.

Hey again Neb,

Thanks for taking a look at seeing how feasible that TM stuff will be to add to Chummer. Got another one for you. Currently messing with capsule rounds and the various things that you can throw in them, compounds, toxins and drugs being the most common I'd imagine. Currently trying to load a set with DMSO and narcoject. This is where things start to get odd.

25 Capsule Rounds @ 3 per = 75 . So far so good.
Add DMSO as a plugin, 10 per dose should = 325 total. Instead, I get either 700 (if I add 25 DMSO to it) or 100 (if I add 1 to it).

The numbers get wackier once I start throwing in the narcoject. Am I just doing this the wrong way, and there's a better way to do it? Or, should I just add the DMSO and narcoject as their own items?

Edit: One more question. Currently messing with an Ingram Smartgun X. Trying to install an external Gas-Vent 3 system onto it. This is not able to be selected in an option for the accessories. I imagine it's due to SR4A 322 saying that if a gun has an integrated Gas-Vent, you can't install the external. Is it possible to get the gun without the Gas-Vent installed (ie, unticking the installed box for that mod) and then installing the external version?

Hi,

Do you plan to add Running Wild creatures ?

I'm currently building a character highly related to this book. We could add creatures base price to gear and creatures monthly cost to lifestyle (or at least a field to enter a specific amount to add to advanced lifestyle monthly cost)

Another thing related to advanced lifestyle is to implement roommate rule. (+10% per roommate added and cost divided by number of roommates)

User from the official Shadowrun Board with the Name of Mason has this to say:

Do the admins never accept new members or something? I have been waiting for a week to get posting rights.
*Sigh*
Would anyone who is a member of Dumpshock consider posting to the Chummer Character Generator thread that Foci and Spirits don't have a maximum Force for me? He has Spirits capped to 10 and Foci at 6 last I checked. I can't post, and I can't PM Nebular. The board won't let me. I would greatly appreciate it, and it could improve Chummer for everyone too.

The Running Wild Critters should all be there already. They're found under File > New Critter.

What sourcebook/page is the roommate informatino found on? The % to Pay was initially meant to handle this (if there are 2 of you, you set it to 50%), but it doesn't include the additional costs for them or let you select the number of people.

1.Very unimportant, because of its rare use, but for the sake of completeness:

Infusion foci and Infusion foci formulae need an identifier regarding what Adept powers they store.
Digital Grimoire p. 8 has two examples for this:

Benny is an adept with Initiate Grade 3, Magic 4
and a spiffy new infusion focus (4) (Astral Perception).

Lyran is looking to make a Force 2 (Rapid Healing)
infusion focus, but she doesn’t have the Rapid Healing
power.

"animal availability and cost chart" P 34 from Running Wild.

If I buy a Wolf for example :

Wolf 12R 1,000¥ Middle/250¥

It cost 1000¥ to buy and require a middle lifestyle (modified with advances lifestyle options) +250¥ per month.

It's not very important to deal with all parameters but i don't find how to buy a critter for a character.

2. When an Awakened buys cyberware during career mode and you make a mistake (choosing wrong grade etc.) and want to correct this by using 'Undo expenses', the lost essence is not 'undone'.

3) It seems that if skill groups are purchased to the maximum of rating 4 at character generation, the group locks once in career mode until I manually break the group and raise each skill rating to 5. This reestablishes the group allowing me to raise the rating again (if I so choose). If I then “Undo Expenditure” all the individual skills the group rating drops back to 4 but remains unlocked allowing me to purchase the group rating back up to 5. It’s quite a process to go through, just to raise a skill group (or two) one or two ratings Skill groups with rating 3 or lower at the end of character creation do not lock and can be purchased higher once in career mode without jumping through all the hoops.

Is the Chemical Seal missing? pg 327 of SR4A.
I can't add it to a Camouflage Suit, which is a full body suit. So it should be possible to add it.

Would it be possible to add a print preview allowing to decide without printing to paper where to put page breaks?

I have an SCK Model 100 submachine gun loaded with stick-n-shock rounds. When I click Fire either 1 or 3 rounds I get an Exception.

What I was wondering is if it's possible to do a print preview, not sure if dot net has that. Something that shows what it will look like on the printer before actually printing it.
or may be selecting page numbers to print if that's possible. A Print window with page selection, etc.