Yes it is.

FYI - since I have no freaking idea who is here right now - anyone that read my last IC post right outta the chute should be aware that I've gone back and made a few edits to better reflect all of your OOC instructions.

So yeah, go back to your regular combination of IC and OOC posting as needed and appropriate.

To speed things along, here are some things you will certainly check out, so I will tell you what you find right off. This does not mean to skip it IC, however. If it doesn't happen IC, it never happened.

The Doc is indeed conscious, but in bad shape (not everyone is a shadowrunner willing - or even able to - fight to the last box of damage). Anyone that wants to throw it into an IC post before I get around to it can hear him refusing stims from his people, saying something to the effect that he's not sure how long he'll need to be awake...

With the dwarf dead, he and his people will absolutely direct their initial attentions to Irv the ork.
If you guys are still around after five minutes, he'll be willing to treat other people, if you trust his abilities. Just like on ER, the doctor can carry on a conversation while he works.
Or you all can do first aid on yourselves (Fort also still eligible). Be sure to apply the mods off the chart on page 244. A person only counts as a skilled assistant if they have some first aid skill. You will have access to supplies and R5 autodocs, but conditions are Average -1 because of the mess the place is in.

I will admit that my records of exactly how people's damage tracks look at this point may not be perfect, so people that get healed call out where you are at once the first aid is done. Remember, all stun damage has to go before physical damage can be touched.

After Kyle secures the Indian elf, he does the same to the crew-cut guy. Birnhauser is dead.

Searching bodies we will handle one step at a time. Same with delving into the depths of the rigger's system, Konsaki.
Konsaki, note that you or a sprite can control the drone, but only through Command, i.e. it's Pilot understands simple English instructions pretty well, although it is hard for you to be precise without any sort of aviation vocab. You obviously can't jump into it, but note that you can't remotely pilot it, either, as pilot aircraft is a non-defaultable skill.

I am sure there are a dozen other things you want to know. Some I have left out on purpose, others I am just not thinking of.
Right here and now I have just tried to get a head start on some of the boring/easy stuff to help the IC/OOC flow move along faster.

@Adamu
Ok, about my sprite controlling the drone, does each command I want it to give to the drone count as a task, or can I just tell the sprite to 'control the drone and obey my commands' as a single task?
If it is the former, I could see alot of tasks being burned up by just telling it to land or whatever.

Also, if Caittie did get a rank in pilot : aircraft, couldnt she still jump into the drone while in VR? IIRC, the BBB doesnt say that a control rig is required to 'jump in', it just gives a +2 modifier on all tests while 'jumped in'.
Yes, I'm trying to eek out every bit of knowledge of what my character can and cant do.

Which is perfectly reasonable.

Your sprites are well-treated and not stupid. You don't have to count every single Command action as a service. On the other hand, you can't just say "Run the drone per my orders indefinitely."

I think it would be more like - "My goal is to have this drone achieve XXX. See to it." Like, kill all those guys, or safely get back into the drone rack, or go and get pictures of that area, something along those lines.

As for jumping in, I see that per the RAW you are right. All you need to jump in is A) full-VR (not necessarily even hot sim) capability and B) a rigger-control-adapted vehicle/system. Note, however, that since that makes all tests based on your skills, you would definitely need pilot aircraft (although from your post I can see you already understand that).

As far as I know, you're still unconsious, but you arnt going to die.
I dont know how much stun damage Fort has, but until that is cleared and you get out of the 'Overflow' condition, you are probably going to be napping for a while... especially since you are the only mage here.

Fortunato is stabilized but unconscious. The extra reminder from Adamu is just to point out that though there was a first aid test to stabilize, Fortunato is still eligible for the First Aid test immediaetly after damage is taken to recover boxes. Which means if one of us still up bothered to do it, we could actually have Fortunato up and running assuming we got a hit or two to remove enough boxes to get him under his overflow. Which is doubtful as far as Sledge is concerned, but maybe not out fo the clinic docs ability.

And once Fortunato is up, then he can do the Mojo stuff.

Just checked, and since the amount of boxes recovered is capped by the skill, Sledge would only get one box back, I suspect the clinic doc will do better.

Interestingly, it appears we can do one First Aid to recover Stun, and one to recover Physical.

I believe you can only make one roll per "set of wounds," which, as far as I can tell, is the accumulation of all the wounds you've taken since the last time you healed.

Ah, but what if in a set of wounds you take both physical and stun damage?

It would be my guess that the healer could choose which type of damage he wants to heal. Physical OR Stun.

Then we have a combat where someone takes a physical set of wounds, and then a stun set of wounds? Does each type of wounds, since they are different sets of wounds get a a First Aid test?

That... is up to Adamu.

Caittie Actions



Q- Do sprites act like spirits in this respect?
1.5 Errata - “Once a spirit has completed a remote service, it is technically
released (unless it is a bound spirit). Spirits on remote service
continue to count against the limit of summoned spirits
until their remote service is completed.�

Even if it isnt, Caittie is compiling this after the first one decompiles.

nothing like the flu to remind you how much pain and misery a human can sink down into. Im over the worst part but im still recovering. Massive headaches, only get to sleep for 2-4 hours at a time, chills.

Damn... is it possible to share the flu over the net? I heard of net viruses, but this is rediculous...

Im on day three of feeling under the weather... Zinc, V-C and lots o H^2O...

DR, I blame you for this!

On healing

I guess the first thing to say is "get well" to all those down with the flu. Take care of yourselves people - you're not allowed to die before Louie!

Now, as for all these first aid questions.

First, I was wrong when I said that all Stun has to be healed before Physical can be worked on. That is only for healing by rest.

For First Aid, you can choose which you address - once you make your choice, that's the one you do until it's gone, and if you have more successes they apply to the other track.
You do NOT get to do separate First Aid tests, one for S and one for P.

As BlueRondo said, a "set of wounds" is all the wounds you currently have that you received since the last time someone did First Aid on you.

There is another important House Ruling on First Aid, but I think I have already stated it - let me see if I can find it...

Found it - quoting from a Nov 20 post -

Rule thing - rules say successes limited by first aid skill, but also say unskilled character can use medkit's autodoc (limited by its rating). In my campaign, use best of the two - I hate the idea that the rules will let Mr. No-skill with an R6 kit do better than Mr. 4-skill with same medkit. Stupid. (Same for data search skill.) So best of the two is the cap.

Konsaki

Okay, all those sprite actions go smoothly and should all be wrapped up in about 10 seconds - not enough to ask you to slow anything down in IC. You can go ahead and let Sledge know her request is done.

As for your question - sounds like you are thinking what I am - that since ruleswise summoning and compiling are virtually identical, the spirit ruling likely is meant to apply to sprites.
Yes, I agree with that.

Cool, that will stop what happened in the last battle where I was powerless to do anything usefull (mainly due to damage ruining my dicepool) while my sprite hacked away.
I wont abuse this... too much at least...

Hmmmm - I am actually not seeing the loophole there. I thought the wording was more restrictive, i.e. the sprites on remote service count against your limit....

But if you've got some neat trick planned based on this ruling, power to you.

Sledge

Just confirming that your bike took only cosmetic damage.

Everyone

Looking over the posts of the last 24 hours, I THINK I am caught up with you guys, and you are all good to go with whatever you want to do.
But if I have missed some sort of question somewhere, yell.

Cerberus

Since last we heard you were recovering, I am not going to do anything for you - we'll just wait for your own posts unless you let us know otherwise.

Ok, the way I'm playing this is that Caittie doesn't know she killed the rigger with Black Hammer. She just threaded it out of blind instinct and her sprite just followed suit.
She knows that his commlink should have crashed normally under an attack program, though it's still running, which is confusing her a bit. Since his body took the damage instead of the commlink, it's still running.

physical searches (pg. 301)
agility 5 + intuition 4 - wounds 3 = 6 dice
crew cut:
5, 5, 3, 3, 3, 1 = 2 hits
mage:
2, 2, 6, 6, 3, 6 = 3 hits

Im looking for weapons, commlinks, money

Adamu, I assumed in my IC post the rigger is dead and beyond help... however, I can change this if there's hope.

Also Adamu

Zakhan tharon cerri = Dead enemy Battle Mate/Chummer

or.. "He's dead Angel!"

Hmm... I know Caittie doesnt know Or'zet, but I guess she could default to Int -1.

Language test
Int -1 = 3 dice
6,2,3 - 1 hit

Universal Concepts (Hungry, Tired, etc) and Basic Conversation (Concerns of daily life) are threshold 1, but I dont know what threshold the saying Sledge used is.

Does the clinic staff just start working on Fort and Rocky automaticly, or does someone (Read: Johnson) have to ask them?

Everyone

Okay, before I do anything else, all six of you get 5 karma right now.

IC-wise, all you guys seem mostly to be dealing with each other for the moment, so no real need for an IC post from me.

Angel apparently had watched enough Orxploitation movies and Goblin Rock videos to understandt what Sledge said to her.

Abbandon finds the following while listening to the Johnson guy talk -
Dead bald guy:
Armor jacket.
Pant-leg is covered in something red, sticky and very fake.
Transys Avalon commlink
R3 stim patches x4
Ares Predator IV in concealed holster, and one spare clip. All EX explosive ammo.
Earbuds and a subvocal mic - you notice both are turned off.
Y1,000 cash, new 100s
Around his neck are three necklaces. All three are leather thongs with a single rectangular metallic plate fixed horizontally (each short end attached to the thong). The length of the thongs are graded, as are the size of the plates, so that under his shirt and below his throat, there is a vertical series of three plates. All are silver or platinum, you can't tell. Top down they go from smallest to largest. All have some weird writing on them. The top/smallest is relatively plain, the middle one has some inlaid giltwork, and the bottom one has some nifty gems inlaid.

Moaning Crew-cut guy:
He obviously has extensive dermal plating, even on his face, where pieces of it are now sticking out of his injuries.
Armor jacket.
Three throwing knives
Eleven (cylindrical) grenades - 3 Frag, 3 HE, 3 smoke, 1 thermal smoke, 1 flash bang
Yamaha Pulsar
Transys Avalon commlink
Y5,000 cash

Sledge - inside the van, just from being in there you saw bench seats and interior panels with racks for various gear, but most appear unused. You did notice an assault rifle on one rack. Ducking into the cab you find the rigger in the driver's seat, thoroughly strapped in, dead as a door nail with blood oozing from every orifice in his head.
Not finding any gear at all on him, you assume his comm is internal. You note cyber eyes and ears.

Sledge



Okay, if I've missed any IC or OOC queries let me know.

Hey, Abbandon, I'll trade you that LMG for whichever of the two commlink that is better and the tazer you just nabbed off the dead crew-cut guy.
You probably want my character too look over the commlinks anyways to clear them out and whatnot. You can use that as an excuse to make a trade for the LMG.

hmmmm.... nice try!!! You dont even know if the LMG can be seperated or if it will work the same as one made for a person to use!!

lol
@everyone Cerberus will snatch everything mentioned except for the crusty mage pants. Please dont let the necklaces have any nasty spells on them hehe *prays*

Mentality wise Cerberus will always reveal what he has looted off bodies when the time is right and then just let people take what they want as it doesnt belong to him. He has a high sense of fairness(still) and we all share the same risk in doing what it took to get it. Money gets split evenly.

One other point i'd like to make is that before we all grab for loot we might wanna offer Dr. Cline first dibs.

I added a section for team loot on my equipment wiki which is the link in my signature. I also put who has mentioned interest in each item in ()'s. Try to mention if you have interest in an item and then when it comes time to divy it up it will be easy.

@adamu is the 5k nuyen also in cash? Did the grenades come on their own bandolier/belt?

Cerberus has 3 guns stuffed in his pants and the rest i imagine can easily fit into his pockets. The guns are highly visable anytime his jacket and pants seperate since he is wearing no shirt. Of course anyone looking at the guns stuffed into the back of his pants will probably also notive his huge troll ass crack and forget about the guns lol.

mwahaha it rocks being this smart. I added a link on my wiki to get back to the forums hehe.

Annotated the loot list - mostly just interested in a gun, some cash, and made a suggestion about who should get those commlinks.

Although it isn't happening right now, when we DO split up loot, Mr. Johnson will pull out his scanner and tag eraser and make sure this junk isn't bugged. At the same time, he will offer to take a look at anything Cerberus or Rocky might have left over from their time working with Louie. He does seem damn good at finding you guys.

Also, we might still be able to glean some useful information from their comms, but I suspect these guys are simply shadowrunners like us.

As for the cash... it makes sense to split it up, especially since it is in easily dividable cash - but it would also be good to use that money to compensate people who arn't going to need/want as much of that gear. We also may end up leveraging that money to get the good Doctor to patch up Fortunato and anyone else that needs medical attention - so we will definatly have to decide what to do with it after we negotiate assistance from the doctor.

Fort would kill for the information on Birnhauser's commlink.

He wouldn't mind having the foci, but they take a distant second to the comm.

Well, once your character is consious again, which I hope is soon, you can request that. Still, I need to run through it to check for databombs, decrypt the thing and the like.

Pretty much regardless of the rest of the teams actions and conversations, Sledge is going to be moving bodies and cleaning things up in the van for several minutes.

Adamu

If nobody has better skills than 1 dice + med kit rating(logic3+first aid2 -wounds 3-conditions1) then Cerberus will grab the best med kit available and start treating Rocky. Adamu can do my rolls. And then what? I can only heal 2 box's of damage at best? Rocky might be better off as is lol.

Can you chain heal people? It says you can only treat a set of wounds once. but is that per person or once only no matter how many people are there? Like if I try to patch up somebody on a run would we be able to take him to a doctor later? Or should we only try to stabilize people and then get them to a doctor?

Wow, it looks like Carla's's medical skills might come in handy on runs after all.

Yeah, I've played a doctor in a few SR games, and it has always been pretty cool. Definitely couldn't kick as much ass as the rest of the team, but once they were done, they always needed someone to patch themselves back together... or put in new cyber. I vaguely remember some black-market organlegger prices that allowed me to make more money on a run ghoulishly cleaning up after the team's trail of bodies than they made from risking their lives creating those bodies.

Thats hardcore looting.

Lol, yeah, the GM put the nix on that operation pretty early on, too - but it was pretty cool.

Not sure how much of it will have come through in the last post, but despite the fact that Adam is very clearly making a point of putting his foot down and drawing a line in the sand and all of that, I would like him to use his social skills (although not directly appliable to PCs) to come off less hostile, and actually offering it as a heavy suggestion, rather than a demand. Ideally, it would be phrased in a way that makes sense to Cerberus, so it sounds like a good idea (which it is) and, ideally, that that last part about how he has foobared his future prospects by turning on a boss (notoriety) will really strike home.

Charisma+Something (etiquette, negotiation, what have you)
5,6,1,2,5,4,5,6 = 5 hits.

Edit: Obviously, rolling dice can't force another player in social situations, but the rolling was more so that I could claim that Adam puts it better than I did. He's more of a smooth talker than I am, I think, but his point is the same.