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BlackHat
Ha! I hope that's the case. If we continue to work with him on other jobs we can threaten to tell his mommy if he doesn't help us out.
adamu
Hey - pictures of moderately attractive farm women are not easy to find - give Gabs a break! Again, sorry the picture on the left is so small, but the woman you are dealing with is a young-looking mid-thirties.
Abbandon
Gabs looks like this maybe ?
http://www.reelfilm.com/images/bevhillb.jpg
adamu
Nice input, Abbandon. But I was going for attractive but down-to-earth for this one. And definitely needed to be mid-thirties.
Konsaki
Painted Cowgirl

One on the left

Horse handler

Woman with horse

I did some searching on the net and found these.
adamu
Okay, Smith is upstairs in a bedroom with Gabs and Rosso.

Rocky went downstairs.

Not sure where Sledge is.

Other three currently in van - which is in the barn - the doors opened for you and shut behind you. Fort and Angel basically asleep (you can be aware of what's going on in that "screw it, I'm going back to sleep" kind of way without breaking your rest hour).

The dogs are whining outside the front door. They won't bother anyone.

The barn is modern and well-kept. Cement floor, running water, electricity. At the back is a line of four milk cows, not currently hooked up to their automated milkers. Besides the big vehicle doors, there are two other exits, neither secured.

The house is a nice, middle-class seeming home - all the basics of middle lifestyle. No sign of kids. Rocky - there are many pictures of Gabs and Russo - they definitely look like a couple - the wedding picture is the real giveaway there.
(No, there are no pictures of the other two runners.)
Furnishings and decor just plain, unpretentious middle-America. Warm feeling. Clean - they obviously don't let the dogs in the house.

Upstairs, Gabs will basically focus on Rosso unless spoken to, ignoring anyone else.

Okay, that should set things up for any or all of the six of you to RP at will. Other than talking to Gabs, you can feel free to move forward up to an hour if you have that much you feel you can and want to do.

Naturally let me know if you need anything at all.
adamu
Okay, you guys - I think we have already established that I suck at computers - so there is no need to rub in that you are all better at finding good pictures than I am. Unfortunately, you are stuck with me for the GM (although I certainly may PM some special image-finding missions in the future....).

Anyway - all those girls look like they're in their twenties or under - don't want to paint Russo as a cradle-robber (just a killer for hire).
DireRadiant
Sledge is going to go back to her bike and take a ride in the country side....

While everyone else is laying around or in the bedroom with the farmer's wife, someone has to watch out for the skulking mafia goons and numerous bounty hunters searching for us.

If there a convenient spot nearby to watch the approaches to the farm, Sledge might hang out there.

It's not going to take long at all for anyone at the clinic and aware of the composition of the team sent against us to realize Rosso is the missing element...
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
Okay, you guys - I think we have already established that I suck at computers - so there is no need to rub in that you are all better at finding good pictures than I am. Unfortunately, you are stuck with me for the GM (although I certainly may PM some special image-finding missions in the future....).

Anyway - all those girls look like they're in their twenties or under - don't want to paint Russo as a cradle-robber (just a killer for hire).

Google image search.
adamu
Heh heh - the scary thing is - I was using Google image search.

Never think I am exaggerating when I say I am hopeless with computers!
adamu
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
Sledge is going to go back to her bike and take a ride in the country side....

While everyone else is laying around or in the bedroom with the farmer's wife, someone has to watch out for the skulking mafia goons and numerous bounty hunters searching for us.

If there a convenient spot nearby to watch the approaches to the farm, Sledge might hang out there.

It's not going to take long at all for anyone at the clinic and aware of the composition of the team sent against us to realize Rosso is the missing element...

Dire

That sounds great. When you get a chance, an IC post to that effect would be appreciated.
Abbandon
People havent even went in the house yet so im holding off with my ic posts.
BlackHat
I'll post somethign a little later. I assume she'll respond to my previous question by pointing out one of the wedding pictures. wink.gif Other than that, I don't have a whole lot to ask her about - I'll mostly be stalling for the team, so they can rest up for a few hours.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
Dire

That sounds great. When you get a chance, an IC post to that effect would be appreciated.

I'll try, but it might be a day or two before I get some time to write and post. Very busy.
adamu
Dire...and everyone else

Not trying to rush you at all. Post when you can. Just trying to avoid having significant actions declared in the OOC and then never having them show up in the IC - ruins the continuity.

And further regarding IC in this scene - no need to pussyfoot around - you can pretty much do what you like for the next hour, and I might give a similar green light later depending on how the first hour goes. So if there is any RP or preparations or action you want your character doing, now's the time.

BlackHat - sorry I missed the wedding inquiry - I'll throw something quick up IC so you can be free to proceed with either talking to her or doing whatever else you'd like.
JDragon
Once hes down stairs Rocky will find a spot where he can keep an eye on whats going on outside, making sure he can give the team as much warning as possible if someone shows up.

I'll Post IC sometime later today for that.

JD
Abbandon
Since Pragma is gone i took control of Fort just to get his butt in the house. Let me know if anything is wrong and i will change it.

Now would be a good time for people to take whatever items they like from the team loot that is listed in my wiki. As people take stuff just go ahead and edit my wiki, just ont forget to add the stuff to yours!! Like Pragma!! I gave you stim patches but you never put them in your equipment on your wiki. I think i gave you 3 and now you have 1 left.

Konsaki
@Abbandon

I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to ask you to edit out everything about moving Caittie into the house. I've been trying to write up an IC post all week, but work has been getting in the way. (14hr workdays)
I also dont like the fact that Cerberus is moving mine and Pragma's characters into a house which he has no idea what's going on inside. All he knows is that contact has been made.

Secondly, I have to ask why Cerberus is moving all the weapons into the house when he doesnt know anything about the woman or the situation, like my complaint above. It's one thing to bring an injured husband to his wife, it's another thing entirely to set up shop in her kitchen with assault rifles and hand grenades...
BlackHat
Well, as for taking control of Cattie, fair enough... but as for laying out a bunch of weapons on her kitchen table, it might not be the best idea, but we're all playing newbs anyways - and half the fun of a thread like this is being able to make less than ideal choices. biggrin.gif And it is something I could see Cerb doing. wink.gif

I say post something along the lines of Cattie protesting being moved around (and Abbandon can edit his post later) and you could even question his judgement about bringing an assault-rifle into the house... but assuming Cerb still wants to rest inside instead of resting in the van, I've got some responses ready.

I figure the wife will be busy upstairs with attending to her husband for a while... so although she might be pissed later... we probably CAN set up a weapon-shop in her kitchen.
Konsaki
@BlackHat
Not a bad idea to have Caittie wave him off.
Thinking about it, I guess I can understand some about the newbness to the shadows.
You deal with the wife though when she finds out about more people moving in to her house. You didn't exactly ask if more people could enter and make themselves at home. nyahnyah.gif

@Abbandon
Please edit your post to have Caittie awake when Cerberus moves over to her, but she sort of shrugs him off when he tries to move her. She doesn't glare at him, she just has that 'I want to be left alone' vibe.
BlackHat
QUOTE (Konsaki)
@BlackHat
Not a bad idea to have Caittie wave him off.
Thinking about it, I guess I can understand some about the newbness to the shadows.
You deal with the wife though when she finds out about more people moving in to her house. You didn't exactly ask if more people could enter and make themselves at home. nyahnyah.gif

Agreed. biggrin.gif IDeallyl we'll clean our shit up and get out of there before she notices - but, yeah, if she flips out, Adam can do his best ot calm her down... maybe play the "we saved your husband" card again.
Abbandon
Ok i will work on that edit.

I just thought the fact that Adam was gonna wait to talk to Rosso and the fact that we had hid the van in the barn meant we were going to stay atleast for a little while. I guess i was jumping the gun a bit.

Original post for anyone who missed it and cares to see it.
[ Spoiler ]
BlackHat
QUOTE (Abbandon)
I just thought the fact that Adam was gonna wait to talk to Rosso and the fact that we had hid the van in the barn meant we were going to stay atleast

I actually expected you guys to stay out in the barn with the van. biggrin.gif But, I recognise that that wasn't something that the three of you would be particularly keen to, and (OOC) I have no problem with you guys tracking mud and blood into this nice lady's house.
BlackHat
Feel free to discuss. Adam doesn't have any other agenda for the next hour, so unless someone brings something up, I am down for fast-forwarding.

I recognise that although our Stun problems wil lbe alleviated, our two big ass-kickers will still be heavily wounded. I'd be down for killing Louie over lunch, except that we probably can't track him down that easily (unless someone has a home address, and we wanna risk that).

In any case, I'm expecting our mission to take place dinnerish (whatever time the trolls inform us is his usual work-time) which gives us the after noon to prepare/heal.

Neither of those are Adam's strong points, so, again, unless he is needed for something else - I will probably have him take off (or you guys drop him somewhere) and he'll go to classes, pick up some food in the caf, and meet you guys at Rudolpho's... or not, depending on the plan.

I can imagine a plan where you guys need a face to help assassinate a guy, but its probably not one we'll end up using.
adamu
Well - a lot of this confusion is 100% my fault. It was me that encouraged people to do what they wanted, and when Abbandon mentioned waiting because Fort and Angel were still sleeping in the van, I posted again, encouraging people not to "pussyfoot around."

And yeah, I did mean that to say that if people want to post, they probably should just act in character and not necessarily wait around for a consensus from everyone else. I have seen and am seeing too many games where things just grind to a crawl because everyone is afraid of stepping on someone else's toes or being seen as too pushy. And it just takes too long in a forum game to get everyone's agreement on every little action.

So I applauded and appreciated Abbandon's original post.

And even more so I appreciate that he took the trouble to totally rewrite it in response to team discussion.

On that note, I have absolutely no problem with planning being done OOC, provided no privileged ino is shared, which hasn't been a problem. OOC planning keeps things moving faster, etc.

And of course there is a place for edits.

I do hope there won't be too much second-guessing people after the fact. As has been pointed out - you're mostly noobs. Furthermore, you don't all have the same personality, and not all of you are the sort of people that live your lives by polite middle-class American social values. If someone's IC action rubs someone the wrong way, rather than the time-travel solution, it would be funner if it was worked out IC - that's what I think.

Naturally if someone's IC post impinges on another player's role-playing prerogatives, then that is a valid time for an edit request.

(Although if I may say so, pragma let us know he would be offline for a bit, and left tacit permission to keep him moving with the team. Angel had been catatonic for some while, none of you had any indication of how long that might last or why exactly it was happening, and even if she came out of it she would have been in little position to fend off being carried in. Cerberus had legitimate reasons to rest his shot-up troll self somewhere more comfortable than the cramped confines of the van, but also may not have wanted to leave his companions sleeping and vulnerable. He also may have had the view that who cares if he is welcome in the house - it belongs to a guy that tried to assassinate him. And finally, the GM encouraged people to move the action forward.
All I am trying to say is that I am truly glad this whole thing was all straightened out before I got home from work, and I think the way things stand now is perfectly fine - and I certainly am looking forward to Konsaki's next IC post - been awhile, dude - but I also want to say that I don't think Abbandon's post was necessarily inappropriate in any way.)
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
I can imagine a plan where you guys need a face to help assassinate a guy, but its probably not one we'll end up using.

My plan requires Adam's presence....
adamu
Well, BlackHat, I applaud your role-playing choice.

However, while it is a totally artificial consideration, and you are more than free to do what you want, dude just think how long in real life time killing Louie may take in this forum format, even if they just jump into the van, go to wherever he is, and start shooting. You would be dealing yourself out of a lot of play time.

(Naturally if you had some projects of your own to do in the meantime - I don't mind running things - although it sounded like you were just going to do daily life kinda stuff.)
BlackHat
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (BlackHat @ Mar 30 2007, 11:33 AM)
I can imagine a plan where you guys need a face to help assassinate a guy, but its probably not one we'll end up using.

My plan requires Adam's presence....

Not the plan where "Sugar Lips" seduces the Mob Boss again.... >.<

And, yeah, I agree that not helping out would write me out of being able to act a whole lot - but Adam has definatly seen more than his fair share of "camera-time" thus far, even Angel's "shock" took a while even though mear minutes went by in game. biggrin.gif If and when we enter situations that require more fighting and less talking, I fully expect to be upstaged by most of the team.

I'm happy posting frequently, and am not looking for a way out of the adventure. I just thought that, as Johnson (and because Adam doesn't want to end up like Rosso), if the plan WAS basically drive over there and let the Trolls bust in and shoot Louie in the face until he died... there wasn't a whole lot of reason for the "Johnson" to literally be there. Typically, Johnsons give the team the mission, and then let them go off and execute it.

IC, this whole "Shadowrunning" thing would be a pretty sweet deal if Adam got to sit back, provide guidance and decision-making and basically manage the team, but they were the ones doing all the shit-work. smile.gif Then all he'd have to do is cash Franco's checks and replace them as they died off. That's probably not a very realistic vision of how this is going to turn out, and wouldn't be nearly as fun as filling in roles as Face, Driver, Medic, whatever and whatnot... but I could see this mission going that way, at least - if for no other reason than Adam has other shit to do than stand around and watch Troll's heal. biggrin.gif

Getting the team together, and pitching the mission was Adam's job. Job: Successful. Murdering a mobster... totally their deal. biggrin.gif Even if Adam was motivated to do it himself, he wouldn't know where to start, and would probably fuck it up.

That said, if the team comes up with a plan where Adam could contribute (as Sledge hinted at), I'm 100% down for that... and since Adam wants to see this thing get done, he's not going to complain about helping out. I'd much rather he see the team as co-workers than subordinates (and I'm sure they'd rather not be thought of as subordinates either).
adamu
No problem - all that is great roleplaying, and like I said, it's all up to you. Just wanted to share my thoughts on what it might mean for how much BlackHat got to play Shadowrun, but then I also appreciate your thoughts on sharing the limelight once the situation changes.

BlackHat
QUOTE (adamu)
(Naturally if you had some projects of your own to do in the meantime - I don't mind running things - although it sounded like you were just going to do daily life kinda stuff.)

Other than tracking down Ms. DelGato's number... but yeah, I was prety much thinking that if Adam wasn't needed to kill Louie, he'd just as soon not fall behind in his classwork, or just follow his normal routine.

He might be a big-shot Johnson these days, but he's still trying to maintain a normal life too - which was pretty much the idea from the beginning.
adamu
DireRadiant & JDragon

JD -obviously I will tell you if anyone comes down the driveway.

Since both of you can see the road - Rocky from the house a little, Sledge on patrol a lot -

There is not much traffic out here, but that is not to say there is none. You rarely see more than one car at a time, but single vehicles are not too uncommon. Mostly trucks, private and commercial, but sometimes a passenger car or bike.

Naturally if a threat arrives, you will get a perception test - but that's raw, unmodified dice. Are you looking for anything specific, and particular suspicion parameters?


DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
DireRadiant & JDragon

JD -obviously I will tell you if anyone comes down the driveway.

Since both of you can see the road - Rocky from the house a little, Sledge on patrol a lot -

There is not much traffic out here, but that is not to say there is none. You rarely see more than one car at a time, but single vehicles are not too uncommon. Mostly trucks, private and commercial, but sometimes a passenger car or bike.

Naturally if a threat arrives, you will get a perception test - but that's raw, unmodified dice. Are you looking for anything specific, and particular suspicion parameters?

There's always the black SUVs...

otherwise nothing in particular other then something out of place in Sledge's limited experience.
JDragon
Adamu,

As DR mentioned the Black SUV's or any other mob vehicles I may have seen while working for Louie.

Also will be watching for vehicles that seem to not be moving with the flow of traffic. Like they know we went down road X but not where we turned, so they are looking for signs of us. In other words passing by slowly.

Also trying to keep an eye out for vehicles passing multiple times, (IE more than twice in a 15 minute period).

Let me know if you need anything else.

JD
DireRadiant
@adamu

[ Spoiler ]
pragma
Hey guys, I'm back in action.

Assensing the necklace: Int + Assensing - 1 wound # dice: 7 :: 1 2 1 3 3 4 4 -- 0 successes
-- Is there anything stopping me from just trying again when I get no information?

If not, Trying again # dice: 7 :: 6 5 2 3 5 4 6 -- 4 successes

Also, I think the air spirit should still be maintaining concealment and movement on Sledge and the van, but if it felt like its job was done then it may have stopped doing so. Is there an official GM ruling on what it has done or should I just IC freely?
DireRadiant
QUOTE (pragma)
Also, I think the air spirit should still be maintaining concealment and movement on Sledge and the van, but if it felt like its job was done then it may have stopped doing so. Is there an official GM ruling on what it has done or should I just IC freely?

Sunset/dawn?
Abbandon
Omg i've been robbed!!! lol. Im not protesting or anything But how the heck did Fortunato know about the necklace, we havent went over what i took off those guys in the clinic. I guess you could say it was laying next to the comm's that you know i took.

Still it looked like Fort just woke up and snatched the necklace and took off for no reason lol. It would have been kool if you had been looking around astrally around the van and saw like an astral signature on the necklace and went all serious about it.

I didnt even get a nod or hey whats up when you left the barn frown.gif
pragma
I assensed Birnhauser before he entered the clinic and saw the necklace then.

Fort's going to give you a nod or what's up when he's done with what he'd doing -- It's actually on my list of things to do at the top of my character sheet, I just didn't want the post getting too crowded.
pragma
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (pragma @ Mar 31 2007, 07:52 PM)
Also, I think the air spirit should still be maintaining concealment and movement on Sledge and the van, but if it felt like its job was done then it may have stopped doing so.  Is there an official GM ruling on what it has done or should I just IC freely?

Sunset/dawn?

I thought so, but since we stopped using the powers for a while, it may have stopped sustaining them. Its weird territory to trod upon, so I'm double checking before I step on anyone's toes.
Konsaki
Need to remember LOS rules too and the range of spirit tasks before they become Remote tasks. (100m per magic point I think)

I'm looking to finish writing up my IC post within the next few hours. Working a 7 day work week on a salary pay blows giant monkey balls, especially when it's 12h work days. dead.gif nyahnyah.gif
adamu
Passle o' questions need answerin'.

pragma on the spirit - if I were more on the ball, since the spirit is smart, I would have had it ask you what you wanted it to do. But in general, unless otherwise stated assume the spirit continues a task until told otherwise or dawn/sunset.

So right now it has concealment and movement in effect on the van. Sledge, however, left its LOS, since even if it goes for altitude, it would then be out of LOS of the van in the barn, and it treats the summoners vehicle as the default priority. So no more power in effect on Sledge.

As for the Assensing, check out p. 59 "Trying Again". Your second test loses two dice.
These are three separate necklaces, so three separate tests. I'll assume you started small. That gives you three successes on the smallest necklace - it is a sustaining focus with a Force lower than your Magic rating.

DR & JD

Visual perception tests please.

Dire
[ Spoiler ]


BlackHat
I got another thing what needs answerin'... biggrin.gif

I figure everyone has their own interpretation of the bleakness of the Shadowrun universe... but it seems to me that in a Shadowrun future, farms would be considered really rare - its probably tons easier to build a small factory that can pump out soy products and use that land to extend the sprawl, right? Sure, on the outskirts of towns there are probably still some farms (we're in one, right), but I imagine that the land it is on is worth a ton... if the owners were inclined to sell (and any reasonable Corp could "convince" them without too much trouble).

IOW, is there anything our characters should infer from this farm.. from "OMG, I didn't even know farms existed anymore" to "Damn, you two must be loaded - that's clearly not the reason you Shadowrun"?
adamu
BlackHat -

Without addressing anything about this farm specifically, the worldview you describe is generally correct (in line with my own). Farms on beautiful pastureland like this are relatively rare within the Metroplex - more rare than now. They do exist however, for a variety of reasons and in a variety of circumstances.

But you are not off track in your interpretation of how Adam might perceive this farm based on his being a citizen of the SR universe, and it is not just something I came up with without any explanation just cuz I wanted a farm scene.

Whether the particular circumstances here are interesting at all, or relevant to the story, only the Shadow knows.
Konsaki
Yay, I finished my IC post. (I know, took me long enough nyahnyah.gif )

@Pragma + Abbandon
Open question to both of your characters. It's sorta just an Ice breaker though to continue on with character interaction.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
DR & JD

Visual perception tests please.

INT 2 + Per 4 = 6
2 hits 6 2 2 6 4 2

Yep, visual enhancers are on the shopping list....
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu)
DR & JD

Visual perception tests please.

Perception for Rocky

Intuition (3) + Perception (3) + Activly Looking(3) = 9 dice
4, 1, 3, 2, 5, 6, 4, 1, 2 = 2 Hits (with or with out Activly Looking.

JD
Konsaki
>.> <.< O_o

You see nothing... The ninja are succesful... cyber.gif
pragma
Continuing assensing:

Middle sized: # dice: 7 :: 2 4 5 2 5 6 1 -- 3 successes
Large sized: # dice: 7 :: 3 6 2 1 3 1 2 -- 1 success
Large sized round 2: # dice: 5 :: 2 4 3 1 1 -- 0 successes

Sitting down before I hurt myself.

Also, assensing Caittie: # dice: 7 :: 6 4 5 5 1 3 2 -- 3 successes
Konsaki
@Pragma
[ Spoiler ]


@Adamu
Hope I'm not overstepping, but he is assensing my character atm.
adamu
Konsaki

Not at all - what you get for assensing successes if very clear in the book, so you just saved me a post, and the emotional stuff is much better coming from you anyway.

pragma

The medium-sized necklace is a sustaining focus, lower force than your Magic.

The large-sized necklace is magical.
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