Not resisting.

I assume I can actually slow down to lessen the overall speed if I need to.

Yeah, great point, Dire - since the power is a multiplier, all you would have to do is modify the base, allowing you to totally modulate your speed - I guess it would just make your accelerator/brakes more sensitive. Wow - opened a door in my mind. That knocks 2 off your crash threshholds right there.

Okay, so both vehicles get concealed, and your speed increases gradually as Fort has the spirit ease the power up so you can get used to it. That also has promised thresshold mods attached, so forget the crash tests - you guys handled that excellently.

Okay, whether because they can't find you, can't keep up, or for whatever other reason, after a fairly short stretch there are no readily apparent pursuers.

Now we need a place to....

crash.

Working on an IC post for sometime this weekend.

Karma

The six of you on this thread each get 2 karma for escaping the Mafia perimeter.

Okay, I have you guys heading north on the freeway - 187? 167? The writing is too small for me to read in my old Seattle book - but whatever Konsaki said earlier.
As I said, there is no apparent sign of pursuit.
Konsaki also answered the question about where Rudolpho's is - Bellevue. The trolls know the exact location, of course - specifically, it is in Kirkland, just west of I-405/basically just about a klick from the Wall that separates Redmond and Bellevue, just a bit past the end of Redmond Way/NE 85th St. It's in a slightly rundown commercial street in what is otherwise a fairly upscale, gentrified neighborhood.

Do you still need a handling test for us on the freeway?

Reaction 6 + Pilot Ground 1 + Handling 2 = 9
2 hits = 2 3 3 5 3 4 5 4 3

Dire - no, as I mentioned earlier, between the bonuses I promised pragma for having the elemental ease your speed up gently, and your wisdom regarding your ability to control your speed despite the spirit's influence, there was no more need for a test.

So where are we going and what are we doing next?

Well, there's still the IC discussion between going to Rudolpho's first, then resting, or resting up and then going to Rudolpho's.

OOC: we need a strategy for keeping ourselves hidden while hiding out from the hordes of people wanting that 100k bounty... which Sledge doesn't know about yet IC. Sledge can probably get a safe place for herself, but not include everyone else, that's a huge risk to her sister given the circumstances. Basically I think we need to see if Adam, Kyle or Fortunato can have a contact of theirs scare up a safehouse for us, Fortunato and Angel can help keep us difficult to track, and we sit for a week or so for the trogs to recover enough for action. And we plan plan plan... Nurse out grudges and thirst for vengeance.

One item of importance to do what we can to keep the Love Machine untraceable, which will take a bit of technical work to do.

And a week in a safe house would be a great bonding/team building experience!

More OOC thoughts.

I think if Louie found any one of his three targets multiple times within hours of committing their offences, we're going to be unlikely to hide from him for a week. An hour, certainly. A day, maybe. A week, never.

Plus, well, Adam has classes to go to, and a life, and well, the mob doesn't (necessarily, who knows now) want him dead... so if the team wants to hide out for a week, Adam will probably get them their, give him a contact number, and tell them to call him when the deed is done. Like a real Johnson I guess... Frankly, if the team needs a week of downtime, Adam can't afford to sit on his thumbs for a week, and will need to go scare up some more minor jobs while he waits for his Shadowrunners to pull through.

Plus, I think giving both sides a week to prepare/recover benifits Louie almost as much as it does us, if not more. That gives Louie a lot of time to pull his resources and either mount a larger attack (or raise the bounty higher) or better defend himself. I think it would be a bout perfect if we took him out before lunchtime - but that is just unlikely to happen given the team's current state of health. Or, at the very least, it would take a miracle, and wouldn't be much fun for the people who still have bullets in them.

It would be nice to get an estimate of how long it will take their character to get back on their feet - sort of an estimate of how wounded everyone is. AFAIK Johnson and Sledge are good to go, Fort and Konisaki have massive stun damage (and maybe some real damage in Fort's case), Rocky and Cerb both have some real physical wounds. Kyle and Rosso are, well, extras. One's fine, the other is on death's door - but they won't be leading the charge against Louie.

As for Caittie, I would like to have 3-4 days downtime. I can perform matrix duties while using that time to have her sort out things in her head and upgrade some stuff. This would also allow anyone to perform any counter intelligence against Louie.
I'm sure that Fort would like to bind some spirts or something to add more 'people' to the mix too, while I might be able to register some more sprites also.

With the trolls being the ones hurt, their body stat along with any medicine rolls, should heal them up in 3-4 days also, if I have my numbers right.

We could totally hide out at Adam's college! As "exchange" students, take a few rooms at the local sorority and fraternity houses... Adam has the greeks in the palm of his hand. It'll be fun!

That may work for Caittie, but for eveyone else? Not so much...

Well at this point Rocky has 4 P damage, but has no penalties on his rolls.

He's tired, but ready to go if thats what the group wants.

If we are going to go to ground and hide out we need to to stay hidden till we are completely ready to hit Louie and finish this.

Or we need to hit him now.

I don't think going to the resturant at this point will be worth anything as its way to early for him to be there.

IF we know his home address we could consider hitting him there.

JD

Just remember that counter attacks, with military units involved, do a hell of alot better when you use a fresh unit to perform the surprise attack. As of right now, with the way 2070 tech is, we dont have the element of surprise and we dont have a fresh 'team' to send in. They know where we were and have an idea of what is probably going to happen: we will either attack them back or hide out to lick our wounds.

If we wait 1-2 hours to rest at least we can have the stun damage healed on everyone when we counter attack, but that allows the enemy to fortify their defenses.
If we attack right now, we have a wounded party which could easily be wiped out with one flashbang (Caittie + Fort) and a few well placed shots (Cerberus + Rocky). That would leave Johnson [insert laughter here] and Sledge to perform the task of taking out Louie and his minions plus any reinforcements they call in.

If we find a way to stay low for around 3-7 days, we can heal up and set up a plan. This will also have the posibility of letting Louie drop his guard some, since some time has passed since the last encounter. During such time Caittie, Cerberus and Rocky wouldn't be able to leave the safehouse unless they perform some alterations to their features and change their SIN's.
Sledge and Fort could be good people to gain physical and magical information on the oposition during this time, while Caittie pulled matrix duty along with Adam helping. If we could find any easy schedule that the mob follows, we could easily have someone with a sniper rifle/machine gun (guess who) stand far enough away from the kill point with Fort sustaining a high level invis spell along with a Silence spell if he has them.

Louie stepps out of SUV
IP1 Simple-Aim Simple-Aim
IP2 Simple-Aim Free-Called shot (Damage)
IP3 Shoot for the kill.

The hard part will be getting away afterwards.

Getaways are my specialty!

Also, OOC, I'll add that we've been warned that we won't get any more edge until Louie is dead. If that means we wait 7 days and have to fend off 7 attacks, that's our choice. For most of you, edge doesn't make or break you, but unless those 7 days go by pretty uneventfully, Johnson/Smith won't be of any use as a hitman or a getaway driver.

Hmm... I would go for the wait a couple of hours thing then and then leak some bad intel to the Mob that we were spotted over in some other part of town where they dont normally hang around. That way, when we do attack, they arnt all bunched up at the resturant.

I think Cerberus is the worst off. I have 9 physical boxs and can only take 11. And im cybered to the gil so it will probably take a few days to totally heal. Fortunato could always pump some magic into me. Thats why I gave him the stim patches before he slapped them onto Rosso lol.

I think it would be kool to lay low for a month or two and make Loui think we all hauled ass and are gone from his life. That would involve getting adam to talk with the Bigio's to see if that kind of time is ok but I think it would do a good job of making Loui drop his gaurd. But I will go with whatever you guys decide.

I could also re-equip and do some training with some downtime.

A long downtime is not going to work for Adam. But it certainly might mkae sense for the rest of the team, especially if we can keep hidden.

Question is, can we keep hidden? Anyone figured out IC how they were tracked? Though it's not really much of a problem figuring out how Cerberus and Rocky were found.

I think it would be fun for Adam to explain to everyone why he really needs us to get Louie sooner rather then later.

For Caittie, as far as I know, it was just part of the storyline to get her into the Shadowrunning part.

My guess, since she changed her SIN, new commlink and spoofed her TM Commcode, the Mob found her via a lucky watcher that called in a red and pink haired elf girl around her age.

Well I think the big ? is....

Do we have a way to disappear for multiple days to a week without Louie finding us?

IF yes, then thats the best way to go. So we chose when and where we strike and we are all at full health & fully equiped.

If no, then we need to suck it up and get this over with and hit him sometime today. Because Louie has put big money out for us, and there is nothing to say he doesn't know more about our help by now. Plus if we try to hide and he finds us it will be an even bigger, heavier hitting group coming to get us on their terms.

just my 0.02.

JD

I agree all around - but mostly, I agree with JDragon's last post.

I doubt we can lay that low for a week. I think there is a good chance that Louie could dig up some real life info on at least one of us (*cough*) and that, unbeknownst to the rest of the team, there is another equally big-bag-mob-boss guy with a lot of incentive to see that this thing happen sooner rather than later.

That said, I think our odds of winning if we go there now are pretty slim... but I think we stand better odds putting together some sort of underdog sneak attack now than we do surviving long enough to plan a real one.

So, unless someone speaks up IC with a damn good plan for how we're going to put this whole mess on hold for a while, Adam is probably gonna push for the "get-this-over-with-quick" plan.

I'm fully expecting this Rosso thing to take around an hour, and half-hope he'll ask us to take him to another streetdoc or a safehouse and that we can negotiate for some treatment (Rosso sorta owes us one)... but if no one else has anyplace safe to go, the best plan seems to be to make the whole city safe for us again.

My char is in no condition to make any plans as of right now. That isnt to say that it could change in the near future, but it's dependant on a few things.

If dropping off the NPC's is going to take a hour or so, we could call that time 'Resting' for us people with Stun damage.
While we are dropping off the NPCs, Sledge can also be doing a few driveby's of Rudolpho's to see what's up over there. An ork on a motorcycle isnt that uncommon all things considered, and she has a good chance to get away if they start chasing her since she IS on a motorcycle.

Fort needs an hour down time to be at his best and about three to toss some healing at Cerberus (depending on how the drain roll goes).

We can keep the spirit running until sundown and if we keep moving (and Caitie spoofs the hell out of our network) I don't think anyone's going to find us. That buys us a few hours there.

At that point I think hitting Louie would be the best call. We can wait for his usual arrival time at Rudolpho's, stir up some trouble on his pseudo-turf (and hope he handles it personally) or try doing some astral/matrix tracking stuff. It would be easier if Fort had seen him, but I think someone has pictures.

Okay, here we are again on the Dumpshock Forums - there's a decision to be made and things grind to a standstill...

But there's no reason for the RP to stop...

And once you do reach a decision via OOC discussion (or some OOC decision-making), I certainly don't want that to be followed by a full transcription of the OOC debate - but some IC mention of there having been some talk - maybe an abbreviated version of things.

OR - if your role-playing vision is of your character just sitting quietly and not participating verbally - for whatever reason - that's fine too.

I just don't want the decision to magically get made with no IC explanation.

And what I really don't want is for the thread to come to a screeching halt just cuz there seems to be an even split between opinions on what to do next.....

Sorry, I'm a bit slammed with some big project deployments, and since I'm running them, i haven't convinced anybody to get it done without me. I'll see about sneaking an IC post today or tomorrow.

I think regardless of the OOc discussion, the IC posts will prevail.

Well, I'll probably post something along the lines of asking Rosso to speak up again. I was hoping he would have a place he'd like to go, since that would keep us moving and buy us some IC time to discuss what we're doing next and come up with a plan (or make arrangements to hide out).

Cattie's mind snapping is concearning and all, but so is driving aimlessly aroudn with a car full of criminals and no real destination in mind.

Well look at it this way, Smith is driving so we are all basicly at his whim, to a limit right now.

No one seems to have a solid plan they are throwing out so just pick a path and go.

If it doesn't work maybe that will be an insperation to say something sooner next time.

Personally I like the idea of letting Fort rest some and then hitting Louie as soon as he is up to healing Cereberus. Maybe making a stop somewhere to pick a good gun for him to use.

I think the safest thing we can do is keep moving or head for the barons, where it will be easier to get out of sight.

Just my thoughts.

Rocky will go along with anything that does not include just handing any of us over to Louie and friends. He just wants the day to be over.

JD

I think driving and napping is the best plan. We're doing it right now, so we just need to fast forward and deliver Rosso (and roleplay and patch up Cerberus -- I haven't forgotten him, Abbandon).

@adamu:

As a note, Fort is going to be doing active rest/recovery starting now (or soon, he'll need to IC his way out of talking). If you want me to cut off conversation or fall asleep, let me know.

BlackHat - As you guys talk, I do need to be aware of where the van is. For now, are you going with the randomized navigation parameters Sledge sent, or continuing on the freeway?

yes. If possible I would like to have the vehicle go on "autopilot" and have the vehicle's pilot (I assume it is droned, if I am wrong I'l do it myself) follow Sledge's randomly moving target. This will free up Adam to do a data search on Rosso's commlink (since Angel is MIA).

Roll for that should be Intuition(?) 4 + Data Search (2) = 6 dice
#D=6 : 221555 n1=1 n6=0 nHit=3 (can keep going if need be)

Will be looking for any sort of contact list, or home address. See if we can't find him a safehouse, street doc, or wife to drop him off with. Will double-check the address with him before heading there though (should be easier for him to acknowledge or something than to tell us where to go).

Speaking of rolling dice:

Healing Stun Damage: Body + Will # dice: 8 :: 4 3 2 6 6 3 3 3 -- 2 successes

pragma

Get to your roll at 09:18 game time. If I forget remind me.

BlackHat

Pretty much anything with computers is gonna be Logic. But before you can do a data search on this high-firewall, robustly encrypted commlink, you are going to need to RP the passcodes out of Rosso or start hacking.


Right now you guys are wandering aimlessly around the Kent, Tukwila, DesMoines and Normandy Beach areas of southern Downtown. Basically a doughnut around Sea-tac, which I'll assume Sledge told the random program to avoid, since it has limited roads and lots of security. Aggessive drones and AROs harrass you away from Bryn Mawr.

Let me know if anything about this movement pattern changes.

Help the GM with a rules question!

In both threads people have been talking about using a photograph to aid Astral Tracking. I dimly recall reading such a rule, but have had no luck finding the reference. Little help?

Lol, forgot that he probably has a password.

As for logic, just cut a die off my previous roll (so 2 hits) - or, after I thought about it a little more, a Browse program is probably what owuld be used (so add a die). I thought it sounded weird to imply that logic would be used for anything computer related in Shadowrun.

So, since I didn't hear that the van isn't pilot-able, I'll IC something about taking the comm and trying to hack it. Rolls to come afterwards.

Changed my mind. He has trouble talking because of a broken jaw, but I'm sure he can enter his 8 character password blindfolded. If he can't, though, I'm ready to roll some dice.

People are astrally linked to their photo's?? Thats kind of retarded. That sounds like somebody thought it was cool how native americans first thought that taking your picture could take your soul and turned into real in shadwrun. I think its about as possable as fast moving zombies though. A picture is completely devoid of any life. Its just ink and paper and the only people you should b able to pick up on from one is anyone who touched it such as the people who made it or the person who developed it.

But whatever.

edit* Unless they are talking about doing something like showing a picture to a spirit and telling it to track the person in the photo down....Cant spirits keep a lock-on for ritual magic?

I think its supposed to be something like that. The magician has to describe the person they want the spirit to find (you can't just say "The President") or mayby visualise the person for the spirit. Of course, I'm fairly certain a spirit can't see a photo from the astral, but I suppose if they are manifested, they can look at a photo as well as anyone else... and it would be a better description than anything the average mage could come up with - and probably a better image than if htey recreated the image in their head (unless they have a photographic memory or something).

Okay - I was gonna hassle you a bit, but my lunch is about over and I won't be back online until tomorrow, so Rosso goes ahead and inputs the access code.

Your Browse + Data Search (yes, that's right, thank you) turn up an address book. It has lots of names and addresses and commcodes, with mini-personal files on some of the names, but not all. Maybe a hundred entries. No "Mrs. Rosso" or "home" or "super-secret safehouse" listed. His doc was Cline.

You'll need to let me know what you are looking for, and then we can talk.

sounds reasonable. the most commonly called is "Gabs" - just a commcode and a street address in Everett. You try that first, he hesitates, and then says yeah, please take me there. He is getting more and more out-of-it by the second.

Off we go! Will reprogram the van to head towards that address and send a message to Sledge letting her know the plan. Will IC it at the first break I get today in my meetings.

Angel is in 'resting' status as of 08:20.

Stun Heal test (1hour)
Body + Willpower = 8 dice
4,6,6,6,6,2,5,2 - 5 hits

Konsaki

Okay, you'll be on the same timeline as pragma.

BH/DR

Once I know which way Sledge is going I will post an IC for your arrival at the address in Everett.

I will offer to walk Rosso up to the door, ask for Gabs, explain the situation, etc. He obviously can't do a lot of tlaking or explaining himself. Anybody else on the team who wants to come is welcome to. Course, if Rosso shakes his head or something like that is a bad idea, I won't. We can just roll him out of the van and peel off.