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BlackHat
QUOTE (Konsaki)
I belive it is boxes healed that is the cap when using a medkit. Adam could have done 2 more if his luck was just a tad luckier. biggrin.gif

Oh poop. frown.gif Oh well. His luck might have been a tad luckier if it was his life he was saving. Only so much luck can rub off during one botched run. wink.gif
DireRadiant
No worries. 2 boxes physical means no penalties. So 4 boxes is perfect.
BlackHat
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
No worries. 2 boxes physical means no penalties. So 4 boxes is perfect.

biggrin.gif

Course, you'll have to heal the last two naturally (might take a few days off) or magically (but if you knew a healing mage, I doubt you'd be letting Mr. Smith operate on ya. wink.gif)

Glad I could be helpful. As he does his thing, Mr. Smith definatly seems to come off as someone with little-to-no medical training. He has some basic biology knowledge, but couldn't tell you what half of the drugs he put into you did - other than that the med-kit's doctor program thought it was a good idea (he won't mention that he saw one of the things he tried on a medical drama show). In the end, its all good, and his sutures are better than most hospital interns could do.

I'll assume Sledge keeps the medkit (and any leftover supplies if they're not used up) afterwards, but Smith will mentioned dropping him a line if Sledge (or anyone else she works with) needs any more medical attention. On the ride home he muses to himself about the prospect of going into med-school if this whole computer science thing doesn't pay off. By the time he gets back home, he's tossed the idea aside. It would be a lot of work, and hassle, and red-tape... but it would be a legit way of making sure his family is taken care of, instead of eternally dependant on the generosity of the local mob.

Note to adamu, next batch of downtime, Adam might (we'll see when we get there) expend some time (and karma) reading up on medicine and first-aid.. either because he's bound to get into more situations like this with his new job, and because it might help him help his mother (rather than paying huge fees to some hospital). He'll probably try to get back in touch with Stephanie Mueller, and see if he can barrow some of her datasofts/textbooks/notes/whatever.
JDragon
Adamu

Ok, got everything on the addiction test, should make it a fun one to pass. biggrin.gif I'll plan on doing it one he's up and moving in the "morning".

The IC I had last done had me in a cab bound for somewhere I had never been before. Hoping I'll less likely be found so I can sleep and then work on the gunshot wound.

I'll try to post arrivial / dealing with the wound and going to sleep as soon as I can. Just had a lot going on in RL the last week or so, and will be a bit crazy till after the holiday, but I'll see if I can find some time tonight.

JD

adamu
Healing

Okay, looks like Sledge healed all her stun in the car.

For the first aid test, you forgot the Average conditions modifier and the cyber modifier. But I subtracted those and it didn't change the result. So you got four successes, which by my reckoning leaves Sledge with 3P. I mention that because I get the impression others have her at 2P. Is there a mistake somewhere?
If I'm not wrong, she is at 3P still.
So Dire, I just need your heal test for the 24 hours you manage to spend in the coffin.

This episode raises a point about my game world view and another about my rules interpretation.

World view - Stuffer Shacks don't carry R6 anything, much less SOTA medkits. On the other hand, I think major malls are probably open 24/7. And I think online shopping/one hour delivery (for a huge fee) are common, just by looking at distribution trends in the Real World. Naturally only for legal items, and naturally leaves huge data trail, but getting the medkit was no problem either way.
Normally would like to have seen that in the IC, but I'm the one that asked you guys to charge full speed ahead, so no big.

Rule thing - rules say successes limited by first aid skill, but also say unskilled character can use medkit's autodoc (limited by its rating). In my campaign, use best of the two - I hate the idea that the rules will let Mr. No-skill with an R6 kit do better than Mr. 4-skill with same medkit. Stupid. (Same for data search skill.) So best of the two is the cap.
DireRadiant
My mistake, I was at 7 not 6. so 3 left.

Mr Smith could always ask some late night college friend to buy it for him. smile.gif What are friends for.

Let me know how much it was for my book keeping
adamu
DireRadiant

The base 600 is fine. Just need your 24-hour heal roll and I am good to go for the wee hours of the 19th.....
DireRadiant
Body X 2 = 12
3 hits 1 5 4 5 2 3 3 2 3 6 3 2

Not sure if any of the healing modifiers apply to this test.
MK Ultra
Cool, just cought up on all the IC threads. Liked them very much! (I guess I have to congratulate someone to get overclocking biggrin.gif)
With work picking up (slowly, but I got much to read) and participating in DRīs game, I donīt know when Iīll get around implementing my plans for the wiki (Vegasī suggestion is a good one, thanks for that), since I need to figure my way around the technical side of the wiki again, first (which is no big deal, but will take me one evening or so, which I currently prefer to spend on IC).
Abbandon
Cerberus

It looks like Cattie, Rocky and Cerberus are all crashing and Adamu you have plans of interrupting s all with some events and are in the process of discussing one of those events with Jdragon?

So am I correct in thinking that we are waiting on a post from you to interrupt each of us before we should start posting?

If im not waiting for Konsaki or Jdragon to post than should i be waiting for Pragma?

It just seems like we are all standing around waiting for each other to post things and i dont wanna be the hold up.

ps: Konsaki if Caittie finds Cerberus and has a gun on him he will have to go nosferatu on your ass and kill you while he is asleep hehe.

*healing*
adamu
Abbandon

You are not holding anybody up - and neither is anyone else. You are right - the ball is in my court. Things have just been a bit busy lately. But I appreciate you touching base.
adamu
DireRadiant

You would have minus 2 dice for implants and 'average' conditions. Dropping those two dice, you still have three successes, so looks like you are going to be good to go - in game terms, at least. RP might still be feeling some pain, but that's up to you.
adamu
BlackHat and DireRadiant

You guys will both now be ICing in the Up from the Bottom thread. BlackHat, look for your next IC post there soon.

This will mean the Third Wave post will now end up sinking to the bottom of the list until it drops off page two of Welcome to the Shadows. This bothered me a lot until my computer-ignorant self realized that it was all still accessible on DS, just not on the menus. So we will still have the archive of our game (in case anyone but me cares).

MK Ultra
But, of course, I care. Iīll need it once I come around to make the transition to the wiki biggrin.gif
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
DireRadiant

You would have minus 2 dice for implants and 'average' conditions. Dropping those two dice, you still have three successes, so looks like you are going to be good to go - in game terms, at least. RP might still be feeling some pain, but that's up to you.

Would medkit ratings apply as well then? I wasn't sure which modifiers would apply, if they all apply or soem apply etc. Nto that clear in the book. The modifiers apply to First Aid tests, that's clear enough, but in the Physical damage recovery section it wasn't as clear.
Konsaki
@Pragma

I just noticed that your second time hack in your last post (the one having him arrive at the Dancing Bare) has him traveling back in time 64 years. I guess we should rename your character 'Hiro' silly.gif
pragma
Fixed -- plenty of people trying to save the cheerleader already.
adamu
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (adamu @ Nov 21 2006, 10:00 AM)
DireRadiant

You would have minus 2 dice for implants and 'average' conditions.  Dropping those two dice, you still have three successes, so looks like you are going to be good to go - in game terms, at least.  RP might still be feeling some pain, but that's up to you.

Would medkit ratings apply as well then? I wasn't sure which modifiers would apply, if they all apply or soem apply etc. Nto that clear in the book. The modifiers apply to First Aid tests, that's clear enough, but in the Physical damage recovery section it wasn't as clear.

I noticed the same problem.

I am ruling that the medkit/autodoc bonus only applies on First Aid and Medicine tests. However, the lack of it would apply the mod for 'no medical supplies/medkit.'
Mean? Yeah, but I think healing giant wounds is too easy.
BlackHat
Hope I wasnt' way off on my assumptions about how much Adam was being paid up until now. Since he started working for Franco (May) until now (Aug), he has broken even - meaning his jobs for Franco barely covered his lifestyle (20K a month). 4 weeks per month is 5K a week. Of course, that was doing slightly dangerous work, but one would argue that shadowrunners have a slightly shorter lifespan than mobsters. wink.gif

Besides, since I think I am going to be stuck with whatever I agree to, for some time, Smith will try to make a slightly higher offer. Say, nuyen.gif 2,500 - nuyen.gif 5,000 a week, but really anything higher than where Franco starts at would be a personal victory. As before, I included Adam's side of the argument in IC, so you can adjust the rolls accordingly.

Whether or not I use edge SHOULD really depend on how often it is going to refresh - if it has refreshed since I am on a new mission, sure - otherwise, if I am going to have to make my remaining 2 points last another mission, probably not... but, again, Adam might be stuck with this number for a while, so its better to press the advantage while I have one (Franco says he's in a hurry, so he might be more likely to agree to a slight raise now, than later when he has all the time in the world). I would, however, like to know what my current Edge total is at. biggrin.gif

Charisma (4) + Negotiation (4) + Edge ( 8 ) = 16 dice
#D=16 : 2216552661513425 n1=3 n6=3 nHit=7
#6=3 : 661 n1=3 n6=2 nHit=9
#6=2 : 56 n1=3 n6=1 nHit=11
#6=1 : 5 n1=3 n6=0 nHit=12
Total: 12 hits. Beautiful.

In case its necessary, an Etiquette test to keep Franco from being put off by the idea that Adam is bargening for a bigger piece of the pie. Asking your boss for a raise is always a daunting affair - much worse when your boss might kill you or people you care about... but, hey, that's one of the things Franco loves about me... my big ol balls.

Charisma (4) + Etiquette (4) + Specialization (2) = 10 dice
#D=10 : 5565131456 n1=2 n6=2 nHit=6
Konsaki
Damn... 12 hits... you got lucky as hell on that Neg check... Nice Ettiquite check too... indifferent.gif
adamu
All Players on this Thread - BH, DR, Ab, pr, Ko, JD

Edge refreshes now.

I don't believe in letting players know when Edge will refresh. As a general rule, it will be when I think an adventure is over, but it's pretty flexible. One thing - it won't be very often.

That said, I had intended to make this announcement before Smith arrived at the Dancing Bare, but since I forgot, and he went ahead and spent Edge anyway, cool -looks like he got a freebie, since his Edge now refreshes.
BlackHat
QUOTE (Konsaki)
Damn... 12 hits... you got lucky as hell on that Neg check... Nice Ettiquite check too... indifferent.gif

Yeah, considerign the # of dice I am throwing around, the etiquette check is the more impressive one. wink.gif
adamu
BlackHat

Okay, you got a huge number of net successes. I am not going to let Franco go over Y3,000 a week (the Y5,000 figure was a nice bargaining chip, but it was also simply calculated to keep your mother alive while we did a fast-forward post). But I believe in rewarding social skills with the same by-the-rules results one might get from a shooting or magic test, so your critical success should be worth the ability to add some extra perk to your package.

I am in a hurry, so I am going to go ahead and post you accepting so I can move on. This is not to say you have to accept the Y3K/week - if you don't want to I can always edit.

When you respond next, you can toss in some reasonable request for the perk. If Franco and I agree it is reasonable, he'll say yes. If not, he'll say no and the opportunity is wasted. Evil of me? Yes.

During the same response post, please go ahead and also IC your next action - I want to keep things moving. When I OOC you his Yes or No, you can edit that into your post.
adamu
BlackHat

Whoa! You're online right now? Maybe I could have dispensed with all those elaborate post-cycle-saving instructions....
BlackHat
Lol, yeah, 7:30 am here. Online before work. biggrin.gif The only other thing I really wanted to ask about was what he mentioend about him pointing me in the direction of talent, or him hiring specific guys... and to clarify that the default is that he wouldn't want them knowing that he is involved, so that Smith/Johnson would be doing the hiring - and basically to ask that I be able to interview potential new talent before it joins the team.

The way I read it originally, that sounded like his intention - that it was basically going to be Smith's job to keep a team together (as they die off.wink.gif) but I figure after a botched run two days ago, it doesn't hurt to make sure that Smith will be ableto do a better job this time around by making sure everyone can work together and that they are compitent in their roles ahead of time.

As for the perk, I'll think about it and post somethign soon. biggrin.gif Gott hop in the shower for 10 minutes or so, but I should be checking regularly all morning.
adamu
BlackHat

No need to hash out nitty gritty clarifications IC - no one ever does in movies. You will see that he has specific people in mind for the initial set-up. But as an ongoing rule, all that stuff will be on you - although how you handle that diplomatically/politically with the rest of the team...well, that'll be on you, too.
BlackHat
That sounds good. the nuyen.gif 3,000 sounds good too. Still making way more than any other kid my age - but it does mean I have to participate to make ends meet. wink.gif Aww, dang. What a shame. biggrin.gif

As for the bonus, I think - since Smith has nothing in mind right now - that it would be cool to attempt to bargin for a favor, to be called upon in the future - something above and beyond what Franco would normally do for his herd of Runners. Franco would still have the right to tell me to fuck off, then, if I ask for too much - but if I suitably impress him in this position, it might mean being able to ask for something more than what I could ask for now ,too... so its a gamble either way.

I figure, at some point, Adam is bound to end up in jail, or worse, and it couldn't hurt to have a rich ruthless guy there willing to bail him out because it would help his personal income. wink.gif

If he doesn't want to agree to that deal (which I think Mr. Smith could present pretty convincingly, that he has nothing to lose) then I guess I'm out. biggrin.gif Either way, I'm happy.


As for the people he has in mind (ya don't say), since I've accepted, I'm ready to get into the details of this emergency - which I assume you want to do IC... but one thing I would like to find out, is that if there is time - could I meet with each of these people he has in mind individually just to feel them out. Anyone he throws over the fence at the team will, of course, be let in (*grumble grumble*) but it would definatly seem strange to Adam to be asked to recruit a half-dozen professional criminals to do some job - neither of which he new anything about until 4am. biggrin.gif Getting a chance to find out what their strengths and weaknesses are would certainly help - but, then again, if Franco has people in mind, perhaps he already knows this information.
BlackHat
Oh, and if you think that meeting with all of them individually would take too lon in the IC posts, that's fine - OOC, I don't mind if Franco says no, or that "we're in a hurry and they're all waiting at that table over there" or whatever - but I thought it would make sense to ask, after the last mission's failure. Also, good buisness practice - especially if I'll be stuck with them for a while. wink.gif I figure if we're rushing, I can always say that the first mission is a trail-run... that *it* is the interview.

*shrugs*

The other thing is that I am certain that if I'm pretending to be the boss, and hiding who is really financing the operation, I'm going to have to end up negotiating with my own team over the payment - and that it seems like it wouldbe in my best interest to gather a little information on them before the meet (or to meet with them seperately)... but the fact that Franco called me up in the middle of the night doesn't really imply that I'm going to have time to do any real legwork - so hopefully, if he's recommending these people, he already has.
adamu
BlackHat

Well, I was busy typing the IC post while you were sending your last two OOC posts. But I think by the time you are reading this you will see that the IC post anticipated and answered all your questions.
Obviously if you have more questions for Franco, now is the time to ask them. But I hope we can speed things up as players are waiting and eager.

Also, I will be sending you a very important PM momentarily.
BlackHat
Nope, that all sounds great - I'll probably get to talk to everyone ahead of time to make sure they're cool with the deal, and arranging the offing of Louie is something I think we can all agree will be fun and worth it. biggrin.gif That was one helluva plan. Franco gets bonus points for being at the top of his game tonight.

Let's get this party started! (goes to work on IC post)
adamu
QUOTE (BlackHat)


Let's get this party started! (goes to work on IC post)

Pun intended, I presume.
DireRadiant
Wetwork.... that's gonna be fun to ask Sledge to do.
Abbandon
@adamu sweet story. My sense of dread and disappointment have been shattered. I cant wait to get things rolling again.

Its gonna be really hard to keep information seperate now. I mean Cerberus would probably try to figure out who called him in his doss but now i already know and probably wont bother looking.
BlackHat
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
Wetwork.... that's gonna be fun to ask Sledge to do.

Lol, yeah... biggrin.gif Smith will think of something.
Konsaki
Hmm... Very interesting... I have a Mob Boss, medium level, who knows my character's name personally... That's saying something. So it looks like we are going to have our one giant group and then split up from there or something like that...
This could turn out very good or go all to hell depending. I like it. cool.gif
JDragon
Just got caught up on whats been going on this week, and aill I can say is SWEET!!

I love you have tied this all together.

I'm going to start working on the last IC post to get me into my hiding/sleeping spot. Then will wait for the other shoe to drop.

JD
Konsaki
I'm liking how Caittie is the only one to fill the nich slot of 'Matrix Duty'. Until some other team member gains the skills and whatnot, she doesnt have to worry about job security too much. biggrin.gif
Course, she doesnt know that right now. cool.gif
BlackHat
Adam totally helped in the Matrixx on the last mission!
BlackHat
@Pragma: Just looking for confirmation - doesn't even require an IC post if you don't want it to. I was going to begin posted about the call to Sledge, but figured I should give Fortunato a chance to interrupt him if there was some misunderstanding. wink.gif

Heads up DireRadiant... you're on deck.
pragma
He's got it, you've made you're points pretty clear.
Konsaki
Now the question is, which one of us three are you going to go get first or are you going to split up and reach us all at the same time?
JDragon
QUOTE (Konsaki)
Now the question is, which one of us three are you going to go get first or are you going to split up and reach us all at the same time?

Well from what I read earlier I'm guessing they will start with you, then pick up Cerberus and get Rocky last. Just because they know right where the two of you are. The last report the had I was still unknow.

But since I didn't really specifiy where I went to find the coffin motel beyond it being where I haven't been, I could be right down the block from the club. nyahnyah.gif

JD
BlackHat
Yeah, I was actually thinking we'd stick together (safety in numbers) and track you guys down in order. I think we don't have Rocky's location, so we'll need either Cerberus or Cattie's help to do so. Splitting up to find those two isn't a bad idea, but I dunno if I wanna send only one person to a place that the mob might be sending a hit at any second. wink.gif

Hopefully we move fast and get to you both in time.

*off to IC post*
BlackHat
Okay, GF came in saying we had to rush to catch a movie wih friends, who never showed, and now she's complaining I've been playing Shadowrun online too much - so I'llfinish up the call to Sledge (at leat, the offer) later tonight or early tomarrow morning. For now, where I stopped is a good spot for Dire to interject, or speak up if Sledge isnt' answering.

If you wanna IC the post, Dire, you're welcome to... aside from a slightly less formal introduction (he will ask how your wounds are doing, and if you're busy tonight, or not, etc), the offer he makes will be about the same - phrased in the same way. If you don't see this by then, I might post and make a few modifications (so thewording isn't EXACTLY the same), but overall, I was happy with it.

Later
Konsaki
I didnt think of a post like that to clear the offer/accept spam... Makes things alot simpler and cleaner since it was already fully stated once.
BlackHat
Yeah, that worked well. biggrin.gif Thanks Dire.
Reiterated the parts I was going to modify for you anyways, and now we're ready to roll as soon as adamu posts that someone points us in the right direction. Glad we got this taken care of so quickly... now we might have time to save the other three members of the team. smile.gif

God, I hope when Cattie wakes up, one of us is standing over her with a gun... actually, no that wouldn't be how Mr. Smith would plan this, at all, but it would be so funny....

Better yet, we secure Cerberus first.. .and bring him with us back to Catties place, and when we wake her up, the first thing she sees is Cerberus's glowing eyes and his big-ass gun!

rotfl.gif
Abbandon
I lost my gun and most everything else when i barely escaped my hit frown.gif

I have a combat jacket and 2 throwing knives.
JDragon
QUOTE (Abbandon)
I lost my gun and most everything else when i barely escaped my hit frown.gif

I have a combat jacket and 2 throwing knives.

You can borrow my Warhawk. biggrin.gif

I don't really use it that much anyways.

JD
Konsaki
"HA! Fooled ya! This time I'm not naked, you lecher! Nya!", she says as she sticks her tongue out. silly.gif
adamu
QUOTE (BlackHat @ Nov 25 2006, 12:28 AM)
and now we're ready to roll as soon as adamu posts that someone points us in the right direction.

BlackHat

Normally not one to point out IC info to players OOC, but in the interest of keeping things going - a quick review of my long Franco-monologue might be in order....
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