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Konsaki
More TM actions...
[ Spoiler ]
DireRadiant
Sledge will move around the area to bracket at a distance, more to be somewhere else so if we lose Louie here, she can have a chance at picking him up again. Otherwise Observe.

Parked trucks or industrial equipment around? smile.gif
adamu
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
Sledge will move around the area to bracket at a distance, more to be somewhere else so if we lose Louie here, she can have a chance at picking him up again. Otherwise Observe.

Parked trucks or industrial equipment around? smile.gif

After you pass the place to get on the other side, you see running lights about a klick down the road - there's a dirt turnout on which sits a giant tractor-trailer rig - some sort of monster version of our own 2007 rigs. Engine is powered down, but cabin lights are on, windows curtained.

That's it in the immediate vicinity outside. Inside the compound see the IC description.

adamu
Konsaki

If at first you don't succeed....

Okay, your drone is intercepting their "team chatter." Since you guys have expressed an intention to watch for a bit, I will continue the IC narrative, and throw in some of that traffic in a representative way - not going to try to write in every word these guys say to each other - their wireless discipline is such that it would take me all day. But what I include will be as revealing as anything they say.
Konsaki
QUOTE (adamu)
Konsaki

If at first you don't succeed....

Damn straight... well, as long as it's something that can be done without anyone else noticing, barring any huge fuckups.
adamu
Okay, everyone watching (including pragma) can make Perception tests.

And if you are looking for anything in particular, just tell me and I'll factor that into your test.
adamu
QUOTE (adamu)


Okay, your drone is intercepting their "team chatter."

Brain flatulence. Your SPRITE is intercepting their chatter.
Konsaki
Perception check
Inutition 4 + perception 2 + VR 2(looking through the drone feed) - Threading 2 = 6 dice
5,4,6,5,4,6 - 4 hits

Dont know if getting the hot-sim feed from the drone helps or hurts her roll, since this is the only visual feed she is getting.
Abbandon
Hmm my IWk has a 400m range on it, i could tryto snipe him. The assault rifle has 350m.

Everything you said Cerberus saw was through the drone view right? Technically Cerberus doesnt have a means of "seeing" AR right now. His cybereyes are not connected to the matrix but I would have just turned them on anyways and then tur them off before we make a move.

Is there some standard range how far cybereyes can zoom in or listen in on? Cerberus wants images of all the people who came out of the building. I'll roll a perception check for that.

Int + Perception = 12 dice
3, 1, 5, 4, 3, 2, 3, 1, 1, 3, 4, 3 = 1 hit

Heh, Rocky's fat head was in my way. Can I snap pics with my eyes off the AR feed?

I can see lasers right? Im gonna watch the rooftops of the junkyard and surrounding area for any snipers or lasers to see if the junkyard guy has more people in hiding.

Int+ Per = 12 dice
1, 5, 2, 1, 4, 2, 5, 3, 1, 1, 1, 5 = 3 hits
pragma
Perception:
Perception + Int - 1 Wounds +3 actively searching # dice 9 :: 4 3 4 5 1 2 1 1 1 -- 1 hit

Fort is trying to keep track of all of the living and/or magical things in the area, be they mobsters, junkyard managers, dogs or surprises lying in wait.
BlackHat
Perception: Perectopn 1 + Intuition 4 + Vision/Audio Enhancement 3
#D=8 : 46535113 n1=2 n6=1 nHit=3
DireRadiant
int 2 + perception 4 = 6
2 hits = 1 6 1 2 3 5

Checking the neighborhood for escape routes, choke points, general terrain kind of thing.
Konsaki
Counting it up, it looks like the Hacker(s) is/are still inside. There are 10 people outside and the reports given said 'around' 12, so that could mean 1 hacker plus an unknown (Initiated Masked Mage?) or 2 hackers. Course, might be just 11 people and the hacker is alone in the middle SUV.

If the hacker is alone and I can get into his commlink, I have a chance of taking him down in one IP like last time, course it's risky and if it goes wrong, Caittie could blow the entire operation. If it goes right though, she could compile a strong sprite to fire on Louie and take him out in a hail of lead.

It's too much riding for me to make the call, since Caittie isnt in charge.

I will say one last thing: If it worked, it would be the best outcome we could get out of any action. Deadly to Louie, no danger to anyone but Caittie and there is nothing linking the team to the operation if we clean our tracks well enough (not that anyone is going to look extreemly hard).
pragma
Another option, if anyone ever gets around to telling Fort what's up, is conjuring a beast with natural weapon and venom (~12 boxes on a sucessful attack) and siccing it on Louie.

I prefer Caittie's option because it minimizes our team's (and especially Fort's) exposure, but if the shit hits the fan, having a giant venomous snake as a backup can't hurt.

... or we could try something really clever and have it use the control animals power to get the dogs to jump Louie, starting a firefight with unfortunate consequences...
adamu
QUOTE (Abbandon)


Everything you said Cerberus saw was through the drone view right? Technically Cerberus doesnt have a means of "seeing" AR right now. His cybereyes are not connected to the matrix but I would have just turned them on anyways and then tur them off before we make a move.

adamu - I know you normally leave your eyes offline and just run them DNI as a safety precaution. I took poetic license and had you jack in to your comm to watch the action - don't worry - you will never get dinged by me unilaterally doing something like that IC. I have also noted your intention to take them back offline as soon as you are done viewing.

Is there some standard range how far cybereyes can zoom in or listen in on?

Not really relevant here, since your eyes are just being used as an imagelink to the feed Angel has routed to the team net. Zooming is done by having your commlink focus in on specific quadrants of the pixel field you are being sent. How far you can go depends on the resolution and your commlink's edit program (which, actually, you do not have, but I am being a sweetie).
Anyway, I gave you a pretty detailed description of the four guys in the IC post already. When you look closer you notice that for all his shuffling and scraping, the ghoul is fairly well-kempt; what hair he has is combed, and his clothes are middle-class quality, clean, and in good shape.


Cerberus wants images of all the people who came out of the building. I'll roll a perception check for that.

Int + Perception = 12 dice
3, 1, 5, 4, 3, 2, 3, 1, 1, 3, 4, 3 = 1 hit

Heh, Rocky's fat head was in my way. Can I snap pics with my eyes off the AR feed?

adamu - you can capture images or even record the whole thing on anything you've got with storage. But still will be relatively poor quality since she is sending you an AR image converted from a hot-sim link - it's not designed for clear 2D resolution.

I can see lasers right?

adamu - good question. I guess thermographic would pick them up. Remember, it would have to be the drone picking them up on thermo, not you. Anyway, the feed you are getting is in both low-light and thermo - you can toggle between them.

Im gonna watch the rooftops of the junkyard and surrounding area for any snipers or lasers to see if the junkyard guy has more people in hiding.

Int+ Per = 12 dice
1, 5, 2, 1, 4, 2, 5, 3, 1, 1, 1, 5 = 3 hits

adamu - you see no lasers or any sign of snipers or hidden folks.

See in-line.
adamu
QUOTE (pragma)
Perception:
Perception + Int - 1 Wounds +3 actively searching # dice 9 :: 4 3 4 5 1 2 1 1 1 -- 1 hit

Fort is trying to keep track of all of the living and/or magical things in the area, be they mobsters, junkyard managers, dogs or surprises lying in wait.

From the fenceline you see only the big cybered guys, plus the bald guy and the long-haired guy you saw at Rudolpho's. The bald guy still has the astral watcher lizard on his shoulder, looking all around.

Note that without exposing yourself by going through/under/above the fenceline, you are not seeing people that may or may not have gotten out of the SUVs on the far side from you.

You see the dogs, and you saw the four junkyard guys (yes, ghouls definitely dual so definitely astrally perceiving) as they went down the stairs, but now they are out of your sight.

Let me know if you want to try looking from another angle, and if so exactly how you do it.

adamu
QUOTE (Konsaki @ Sep 3 2007, 02:36 AM)
Counting it up, it looks like the Hacker(s) is/are still inside. There are 10 people outside and the reports given said 'around' 12, so that could mean 1 hacker plus an unknown (Initiated Masked Mage?) or 2 hackers. Course, might be just 11 people and the hacker is alone in the middle SUV.


This is basically what the requested perception test was for - and you got the most successes plus figured it out on your own.

So I will say that based on what you've been told, what you've seen, conferring with Smith about the feed (BH got good hits, too), and observing people talking into the cars and what doors opened, etc. Angel figures out that there is still one person each in the middle and tail SUVs.
adamu
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
int 2 + perception 4 = 6
2 hits = 1 6 1 2 3 5

Checking the neighborhood for escape routes, choke points, general terrain kind of thing.

A worthy question, although admittedly a bit of a challenge for a forum game. Table top I could give you a rough sketch of that stuff in three minutes.

(Yes, I know you have all taken great pains to explain to me how to use my new scanner and all that - but you know, the Gremlins flaw DOES exist in real life, as does the Incompetence flaw.)

The situation is relatively simple, though.

Let me elaborate on what I have told you so far.

As you know, the junkyard is on a north-south road 5.1 kilometers south of I-90. You are in an industrial zone.

There are several other public roads running south (not north into the Barrens) from the freeway into this area, to provide access to the freeway.

However, all the east-west roads are private - they are built by the companies to provide access for supplies, shipments, and employees. (Although there are independent operations here, a large proportion of the installations are here for a reason - coffee-maker factory goes up, their chief parts supplier builds its factory next store; a lot of them combine to buy power in bulk or provide security, etc; or they're all subsidiaries of subsidiaries of subsidiaries of the same megas.)

Thus, at night the east-west roads are almost all just gated. If they will be used 24/7, they are manned. Most are remote controlled, however.

The long and the short of it is that you have got just the one north-south road, and it goes another 7 kilometers south before coming to a public road running east-west and connecting to the other lines running south from the freeway.

Thus, in effect, anywhere could be a chokepoint.

For terrain, you have a variety - in some places you could have a warehouse or fenced factory compound abutting directly against the road on both sides. And in some places you could have unfenced employee parking lots on both sides of the road. And so on. If you are looking for a particular configuration, let me know and if it's real specific I'll roll some dice to randomly decide.

As for high ground - there's enough empty and relatively cheap land around here that it's generally not worth the expense of building tall, so nothing nearby that overlooks the meet REAL well, especially considering the width of the yard (remember, 3 klicks on a side).

Any more questions, let me know.


adamu
Directorial Notes

Lots of good OOC planning going on - so I will not move the "meet" forward until you guys are either ready or constructive conversation dies out.

Whenever you want, but SOMETIME, if people could follow JDragon's lead and put some of this planning chatter into the IC thread.

Don't need even 10% of the total OOC content - I just don't want you guys to make an elaborate plan OOC and then suddenly I get IC posts of people swinging into action.

Just, "after some quick planning, so and so did such and such" is all that is absolutely necessary, although of course more is always better.

Let me know if you have questions or if you are ready to let "time" resume (that'll happen eventually anyway...even chatting on the team net takes a little time...but for now we are cool).
Konsaki
@Adamu

I'm going to assume that Caittie can tell if the drone is armed, with the hot rigging feed. I'm also going to assume that the mob wouldnt arm their men to the teeth without arming the drone with something as well, otherwise there would be little point to having the drone on hand other than another set of eyes.

Correct me if I'm wrong and if you can, please tell me exactly what Caittie found out about the equipment on the drone based off the hot feed.


Memory check to see if Caittie remembers that Fort cant hear matrix traffic right now = 10 dice
1,6,5,2,4,6,1,1,1,2 - 3 hits
BlackHat
Also, what is the range on the pain inducer (AFAIK, its not specified in the book), and how far are we from the scene? We don't exactly have any long-range sniper weapons on hand, but spooking a dog with a burn to its ass might incite some hilarity.
Konsaki
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Also, what is the range on the pain inducer (AFAIK, its not specified in the book), and how far are we from the scene? We don't exactly have any long-range sniper weapons on hand, but spooking a dog with a burn to its ass might incite some hilarity.

Your right, I couldnt find anything on it either.
My guess would be Heavy pistol or SMG range for that type of weapon though.
BlackHat
Yeah, it says its a microwave emitter, but I don't know if that means the beam should go in a long straight line (like a laser) or if microwaves are prone to diffusion or something after a short distance. I could see it going either way, and don't know enough about microwaves to know.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (pragma)
... or we could try something really clever and have it use the control animals power to get the dogs to jump Louie, starting a firefight with unfortunate consequences...

I think we'd start with this, the people there half expect this to happen.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Sep 1 2007, 01:43 AM)
Sledge will move around the area to bracket at a distance, more to be somewhere else so if we lose Louie here, she can have a chance at picking him up again. Otherwise Observe.

Parked trucks or industrial equipment around? smile.gif

After you pass the place to get on the other side, you see running lights about a klick down the road - there's a dirt turnout on which sits a giant tractor-trailer rig - some sort of monster version of our own 2007 rigs. Engine is powered down, but cabin lights are on, windows curtained.

That's it in the immediate vicinity outside. Inside the compound see the IC description.

How far away from the compound is the truck?

[ Spoiler ]
adamu
QUOTE (Konsaki)
please tell me exactly what Caittie found out about the equipment on the drone based off the hot feed.

Although you are sensing a jumped-in state, as you know, you are only listening in on signals right now. So you are basically unable to direct your attention at any aspect of the drone on your own - your attention and perception go where the rigger's does.

You can tell it is a vector thrust drone, and that in addition to a sweet sensor package (thermo, low-light, audio, radar, ultrasonic) it is armed with an LMG - the rigger is constantly targeting the guy with the big beer gut. The drone "feels" very agile and the targeting seems very spot on (as well as you can judge without pilot aircraft or gunnery skills).
adamu
QUOTE (BlackHat)
Also, what is the range on the pain inducer (AFAIK, its not specified in the book), and how far are we from the scene? We don't exactly have any long-range sniper weapons on hand, but spooking a dog with a burn to its ass might incite some hilarity.

What the heck - we'll say Heavy Pistol for now. If I had time, I might do a search on DS for something authoritative...

As stated in the IC post, you are in the parking lot of a warehouse right across the road from the gates of the junkyard. With the van magically concealed, no one has noticed it. I have been narrating things from the better view of the drone, but you can probably get eyes on the meet through the windshield of the Love Machine.

Of course, that only gets you some dogs and thugs and the back side of the SUVs. The "meet" is on the other side of the middle SUV, the one that is broadside to the gate.

Total distance to closest dogs - say 30 meters. Total distance to roughly where Louie is, 40.
adamu
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (adamu @ Sep 1 2007, 02:59 AM)
QUOTE (DireRadiant @ Sep 1 2007, 01:43 AM)
Sledge will move around the area to bracket at a distance, more to be somewhere else so if we lose Louie here, she can have a chance at picking him up again. Otherwise Observe.

Parked trucks or industrial equipment around? smile.gif

After you pass the place to get on the other side, you see running lights about a klick down the road - there's a dirt turnout on which sits a giant tractor-trailer rig - some sort of monster version of our own 2007 rigs. Engine is powered down, but cabin lights are on, windows curtained.

That's it in the immediate vicinity outside. Inside the compound see the IC description.

How far away from the compound is the truck?

[ Spoiler ]

As noted in the quote above - a klick down the road.

Whether anyone would hear or notice the sound of gunfire from that far away, with factories all around and dogs snarling - hard to say. Would depend a lot on the quality and quantity of the gunfire, and other environmental factors.
DireRadiant
Everyone, both IC and OOC, if you don't think this is a good time to hit Louie, then there's no problem backing out of it.
BlackHat
I'm cool with it. Don't have my book at work with me, but if 30 m is within reasonable heavy pistol range, I could move u pto the van and try to spook a dog with a hot shot to the butt, if we're looking for a distraction. Otherwise I am cool with any ofthe other plans, magical attack, drone firing, etc.

Smith isn't a terribly good shot, but the fact that the enemies won't be dodging around would help.
pragma
I think it's a near optimal time; this is a serious mess that he's getting into and we still have the drop on him. Getting the dogs to jump him will at least thin his ranks somewhat and if we don't get around to getting the shot off then we're still clear to try again later if we fail.

Fort's going to jump into IC sometime this evening and will say about the same thing.
Konsaki
NOTICE:

I'm going to be hopping on a plane in around 4-5 hours from now. After that, I'll probably be unavailable for around a day or two.
JDragon
Lets take the shot while we can.

JD
Abbandon
Im against acting now but i am but a twig floating on some rapids. If we wait we can try to take out an SUV, let him collect some fat loot. I dont think you guys should target Loui with anything. That will probably trigger alerts from the watcher or something.

If you guys do act now then Sledge really really needs to slam that middle van out of the way so Cerberus can have a view of some actual targets. If we are only 40 meters away Cerberus should be able to count the shaved hairs on Loui's face and turn him into swiss cheese if he could find a line of sight.

We should target Angelo. Angelo is the guy who gives everyone orders. Take him out and Loui will be totally fubared.

We are only concealed while we are inside the van right?
adamu
@Abbandon

That's right. The concealment order was for the van, and that was Fort's only service for this particular spirit. So getting out of the van where it is right now basically leaves you out in the open with a straight LOS to some dogs, the drone, and the rear guards of the mafia.
adamu
Just so everyone is clear - Sledge and her bike are somewhere beyond the compound ("bracketing"). Sledge is not in the immediate vicinity of the van.

I only mention it because of Fort's "thinking to Sledge" when actually the watcher he is using to relay comms is in the van, not with Sledge.

Just so everyone is on the same page.

I am a little hazy on exactly where Smith is right now...
BlackHat
QUOTE (adamu)
I am a little hazy on exactly where Smith is right now...

I should still be behind the van (in visual of the van, but not the compound). I have offered to move up, but that isn't necessarily the best plan we've got - and until that's the plan we're going with, I don't want to risk exposure.
Konsaki
Posting from Seattle right now while trying to avoid the rampant shadowrunners. It's crazy over here! nyahnyah.gif
Give me another day to get to my final destination. I've been thinking of what exactly I'm going to do in game while I'm flying though. wink.gif
DireRadiant
QUOTE (Konsaki)
Posting from Seattle right now while trying to avoid the rampant shadowrunners. It's crazy over here! nyahnyah.gif
Give me another day to get to my final destination. I've been thinking of what exactly I'm going to do in game while I'm flying though. wink.gif

Welcome Stateside!
Konsaki
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
QUOTE (Konsaki @ Sep 5 2007, 01:39 PM)
Posting from Seattle right now while trying to avoid the rampant shadowrunners. It's crazy over here!  nyahnyah.gif
Give me another day to get to my final destination. I've been thinking of what exactly I'm going to do in game while I'm flying though.  wink.gif

Welcome Stateside!

Thank ye. It's been way too long since I set foot on my home ground, though I still have a bit to go before I truly get home. wink.gif
Abbandon
The furthest I have been is from Illinois to Colorado lol. Never seen an ocean, never been to another country, have never flown on a plane. I'd like to goto Ireland, Japan, or somewhere in the middle east until i found out they want to kill and dismember me. I thought the middle east had hot music and hot women but I wouldnt want to go there now lol.
Konsaki
I'm now home in Texas for a while. Really jet lagged from having to relive 5 Sep twice and traveling both times... Blarg...
adamu
@Konsaki - I envy you much. Ah, the thought of repatriation...

@Everyone - you guys have made a decision, and have nearly finalized your plan of attack.
Now actually coordinating an implementation will be very challenging simply in terms of PbP - insofar as the medium itself is a problem, I stand ready to help out in any way you need. In my opinion, the key is to agree on the final plan and then appoint a "caller" with power to declare general actions for others. Naturally individuals would be free to jump in on their own behalf when needed.
Just my thought - and I only step in to assist with the unwieldiness of forum gaming.

As for problems and organizational difficulties that are NOT because of the PbP issue - you are free to conquer or be crushed according to your own genius and fortune.
BlackHat
I think we should make DireRadiant the caller. Sledge seems to be the one with the plan, anyway.
DireRadiant
QUOTE (BlackHat)
I think we should make DireRadiant the caller. Sledge seems to be the one with the plan, anyway.

Muahauhuahauhauahauahauha!
adamu
Now that should inspire confidence...
BlackHat
DR has gone MAD with power!
DireRadiant
I'm just waiting on Konsaki to chime in with IC and OOC ideas and responses. Then we will go ahead with...

Sledge approaches parked Rig and attempts it hijack/steal it.
Once the truck is on the move and in bound - If the jacking is noticed, unleash the dogs o war!

If the truck can approach unnoticed, or even noticed...
then in no particular order, as appropriate, we attempt the following.
- Sledge will run the truck through the gates and ram a vehicle. Possible Targets, Rigger, Unknown ("Merlin" most likely) , or Louie himself, with the intent of trying to gain a clear line of fire for Cerberus.
- Angel takes over/jams/incapacitates the Drone and attempts to use it to shoot the same set of targets
- Fortunato, unleashes a dog or dogs, which will reveal the Love Machine, but make for a lot of doggie burgers. Targets don't matter much, but Louie is always good for this, but it might actually be more effective if a dog attacks some of the body guards, might make it more confusing as to what's happening.
- Cerberus shoots things, lots of things, then he runs out of bullets and has to follow...
- Rocky is assigned the specific task of remove Louie's head from his shoulder, or the modern equivalent. We'll trust Rocky if he simply assures us Louie is quite dead.

We embellish as appropriate. (Our chance to do all those wacky runner things that are oh so cool!)

Then we run run run as fast as we can. No one gets left behind!

Sugar Lips has to take care of himself. But it might not be a bad idea to take advantage of any opportunity to make friends with ghouls that run junkyards. Great way to get rid of and to obtain things....
JDragon
QUOTE (DireRadiant)

- Rocky is assigned the specific task of remove Louie's head from his shoulder, or the modern equivalent. We'll trust Rocky if he simply assures us Louie is quite dead.

10-4 Rocky's all over it.

JD
pragma
It will take one combat round to summon the new spirit and another to give it orders, some advanced warning to Fort (mayhaps while the big rig is accelerating) will allow him to kick ass and take names with much greater effect.

Other than that, sounds like a plan.
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