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MK Ultra
Say, does anyone know, why the numerical anchors on TFīs wiki pages donīt work? I had no problems with Numbers as anchors on the old wiki, IIRC. frown.gif
They look like this [[#1]] and that [[PC - Tao-Fighter - Background#1|More]].
Another thing:
I changed TFīs lifestyle to Low/shared. Iīd prefer him to live with JAX in The Garage, since heīs his only real family available. If thats ok with you, ES Sparky and Vegas.

EDIT: arg, hit again.. sarcastic.gif
Rokur
umm... about this whole planning stage... do we wanna maybe just think up a few plans OOC and vote on them in the wiki? might make it easier...
Silo
QUOTE (Rokur)
umm... about this whole planning stage... do we wanna maybe just think up a few plans OOC and vote on them in the wiki? might make it easier...

I like that idea. Planning rarely happens in character anyway during tabletop gaming.
HeySparky
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
I changed TFīs lifestyle to Low/shared. Iīd prefer him to live with JAX in The Garage, since heīs his only real family available. If thats ok with you, ES Sparky and Vegas.

You're welcome to move in. I have the garage with a basement 'apartment' and rooms above as well. JAX lives in the basement. What you guys do upstairs is your business.
MK Ultra
Arr, damn, basment would be so cool, from a wuxing standpoint (earth strengthening metal and all), but a leach canīt be picky nyahnyah.gif . Many Thanx!

About OOC planing, Iīd be in for it, shoud speed things up a bit, and it isnīt that interesting to do it IC, really IMHO.
HeySparky
I'm not tied to the basement. We can have it be swapped, JAX above and spare space below, but you should consider how a dead man affects a place's feng-shui (sp?) before you get too excited. JAX's dad was found in the basement.

smile.gif

I'll say there are two 'areas' above and two 'areas' below that can serve as residences. Both sharing bathrooms/kitchens.
Rokur
Since i've had some agreements in OOC planning...
to possible build off of what Jax's plan was, maybe we could make lots of decoys, and ward every shoebox. And as a getaway plan, we run around switching our shoeboxes up so they have no clue as to which one it is, and either chase the wrong one or split themselves up...

And no offense to the thoughts of aquatic adventures, but on bikes, if we crash we can run through the streets.... diving off of boats is a whole other matter.
HeySparky
That's not to say the boat shouldn't be ready to move a decoy or the real deal across the river if need be.
TinkerGnome
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
Say, could TF controll his comlink through an external simrig

Just use trodes. Cheap, easy, and just as good as a datajack.

On the alcohol antidote, expect a massive headache the next day, but I'll allow it.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (TinkerGnome @ Apr 5 2006, 03:10 PM)
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
Say, could TF controll his comlink through an external simrig

Just use trodes. Cheap, easy, and just as good as a datajack.

Cool. so Trodes do allow not only to access the output, but allso to produce imput? Opinions vary on this topic, Iīd rule Trodes only allow imput, but I wonīt complain biggrin.gif


QUOTE

On the alcohol antidote, expect a massive headache the next day, but I'll allow it.


Thats totally cool, he should pay dearly for every single drink, thereīs a reason he turned to stimulants and sim (ah, sim, getting drunk without hangover, well as ling as you donīt tinker with the peak controll nyahnyah.gif )

QUOTE (Sparky)
I'm not tied to the basement. We can have it be swapped, JAX above and spare space below, but you should consider how a dead man affects a place's feng-shui (sp?) before you get too excited. JAX's dad was found in the basement.


Thatīs not an issue for TF, he grew up visiting the zoo or movie theater with ancastor spirits, his nanny was a hearth spirit and in elementary school, his history teacher was a spactor/ghost/aparation (whatever is the correct term ruleswise). So, for him, dead people are just like other people cool.gif, some are nice some are naughty.

Iīd really like to split his space however, puting his magical lodge into the basement, but living at ground level. This way, Sparky could stay downstairs and have a bit more place/privacy, than we upstairs (unless there are many others, who want to squat in the garage rather then the HQ), also less noisy down there, when Thyn ore someone is working off hours (would also make JAX less edgy, not to have to share kitchen and restroom with Halo wink.gif (and she wouldnīt have to watch her back so often nyahnyah.gif )). Iīd be ok with TF in the basement compleatly, if it fits you others better.
Vegas
QUOTE (ES_Sparky @ Apr 5 2006, 01:34 PM)
you should consider how a dead man affects a place's feng-shui (sp?) before you get too excited. JAX's dad was found in the basement.

smile.gif

I'll say there are two 'areas' above and two 'areas' below that can serve as residences. Both sharing bathrooms/kitchens.

Woo creepy dead guy's ghosts haunt the garage at night! nyahnyah.gif

Seriously though, the way I saw it for Halo is I'm paying for a "low" lifestyle mostly because of the cost of real food and that's it she lives like a squatter. I'm thinking she begged JAX and pays him something each month for like a huge supply closet type room (up or down I don't care particularly) and she's got an old filing cabinet as a "dresser" and she's got what little shit she has stored there and something akin to a twin sized futon matress to sleep on and not much else.


QUOTE (MK Ultra)
(would also make JAX less edgy, not to have to share kitchen and restroom with Halo  (and she wouldnīt have to watch her back so often  )).


Oh c'mon, there's like prime RP moments just WAITING there if she has to share a bathroom with JAX (or any other dude really) biggrin.gif Besides she grew up with her brothers, sharing a bathroom with guys doesn't freak her out nyahnyah.gif
HeySparky
There's a BIG difference between sharing a bathroom with a brother and a sharing a bathroom with a not-brother. smile.gif

In the interests of RP, TF, you can have the whole basement. And JAX and Halo will split the place above the garage. JAX has the 'nice' part though.
Vegas
QUOTE (ES_Sparky @ Apr 5 2006, 04:42 PM)
There's a BIG difference between sharing a bathroom with a brother and a sharing a bathroom with a not-brother. smile.gif

Welllll she thinks of JAX like a brother... kinda..*cough* sorta.. ok, nevermind


Oh shit, this'll be fun... Halo and Neo outside.. alone.. avoiding allergies. biggrin.gif
Hope there's no bloodshed rotfl.gif
MK Ultra
frown.gif

I wasnīt alluding to her having problems sharing the restroom with any guy. You noticed thet TF is a guy too, right indifferent.gif . I was pointing towards her Take about Jun (the early one at least, I donīt know if that had changed).
Vegas
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
I wasnīt alluding to her having problems sharing the restroom with any guy. You noticed thet TF is a guy too, right indifferent.gif . I was pointing towards her Take about Jun (the early one at least, I donīt know if that had changed).

Hehe I know, TF's a guy, believe me biggrin.gif I'm just being silly. I think it's from all the hair dye I subjected myself to today.

It's exactly that "tension" that I was going for though. Makes RP a lot more "fun"
MK Ultra
About Neo. Muhahahahar, thats the way, to get people to ow you, bring them into a bad situation, without being directly involved or accountable for it, than recue them nyahnyah.gif

About Squatt
I donīt want to be alone in the chellar frown.gif
If theres a real ghost there (but I doubt that), thats fine, otherwise, TF will lack company. Matal isnīt all about surrounding oneself with earth (though thats probably a good place for the lodge), itīs allso about socializing, so he would only be down there, when working magic stuff anyway. The place and privacy would be wasted.

@Thanee
We should not open the box, IIUC, it was only answered OOC, though.
Dranem
IMO the taint of what Jax's father was wouldn't go with TF at all... I mean a guy who was that much of a B (I know I'm metagaming here having read Jax's history file) would have left a bad residue.... at least from what I remember of astral signatures.
HeySparky
He was BAD news indeed. That would be a cool thing that I can work with with TF, if Tinkergnome doesn't mind.

EDIT: I mean, I have a backstory for dear old dad, I can feed clues/bits to TG and HE can feed them to TF if that would work better... one arbiter of reality per game and all.
MK Ultra
TF would probably try to clean the mess up. About bad people, they are bad even if they are dead, but spirits of men tend not to harm TF, when they are not forced to. Even if they are angry ghosts, Iīd think, theyīd rather try to scarr him off and ignore him, when it doesnīt work. Less agressive dead are probably greatfull for someone, they can interact with, without scarring him away. The dumb-frame aparations are harmless anyway

Anyway, even if there is no Spook (and I think that would be overkill exotic), TF will probably dream about stuff, while living in the Garage, no metter, if he sleeps upstairs or down.
Dreams about dead people are the most frequent, heīs got and the lingering signature (even if itīs not a fullblown background count, though I wouldnīt mind that either) will probably filter into his subconcious over time.
Thatīs a more subtile aproach, I would prefer. Someday, there may even show up a spactor, but that should be some time until then, building a dramatic arc.

Sounds fun nyahnyah.gif

Still TF would hang out upstairs almost all the time. Also, he will try to compensate for his leaching of space/amanities/security, by cleaning up, kataloging parts (even without the spell), etc..
HeySparky
There's upstairs and upstairs.

The ground floor which is the garage part and the above-ground-floor crappy apartment.
MK Ultra
K, now Iīm a bit confused. So there are 2 living units in the basement, 2 living units on the ground level, where the garage is as well and one crappy apartment upstairs above the garage?

EDIT:
Wow, Iīm geting all excited about this ghost storry and the living community stuff smile.gif
Makes for somuch more RP! I love flashing out this stuff, sadly, most of my RL players donīt do so much of this stuff. They wonīt even know, which cigarettes thair characters smoke (TF smoces anything, heīs a leecher wink.gif ).
HeySparky
It's simple.

Ground floor: Garage, office (if there is one)
Up one flight of stairs: A seedy one-and-a-half bedroom apartment.
Down one flight of stairs: A seedy basement with minimal plumbing and room for a lodge and a living space to be divided at MK sees fit. If there is a washer/dryer here, it's in the basement.

There's some good RP.

Halo: 'Scuse me TF, pardon. Oh... sorry, I messed up your circle. Just gotta hang my delicates up here. Be outta your hair in a sec.
Vegas
QUOTE (ES_Sparky @ Apr 5 2006, 05:52 PM)
There's some good RP.

Halo: 'Scuse me TF, pardon. Oh... sorry, I messed up your circle. Just gotta hang my delicates up here. Be outta your hair in a sec.

*dies* rotfl.gif

Sparky, you kill me. Can I keep you? nyahnyah.gif
MK Ultra
*rolles over* biggrin.gif grinbig.gif biggrin.gif rotfl.gif

EDIT: sounds like a re-run of the odd coven (thogh there is only one magician).
We should get Raven & Tag to live together in one flat biggrin.gif
Thanee
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
@Thanee
We should not open the box, IIUC, it was only answered OOC, though.

Yeah, I read that... but I thought it was something *inside* the box, which we should not tamper with... maybe I got that wrong? smile.gif

Bye
Thanee
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Thanee @ Apr 5 2006, 06:25 PM)
... maybe I got that wrong? smile.gif

Donīt know. Maybe I got that wrong. wink.gif

@ Rokur

Looked at your Mechanics at the wiki. I think the grouping looks good, though #2 of 3 lacks any healing capacity!

EDIT:
Uh, You tricked me! Put up again sarcastic.gif
Vegas
Slam didn't seem to give two shits about opening the boxes, just don't take the plastic off the pistol.

Fingerprints n' ruining whatever IS on it already. Duh. smile.gif
Rokur
About my mechanics page... it wasn't quite done yet... I had nurse and toy on the second team, and then had switched it for me and neo.... I'm still working on balance and all that good stuff...
MK Ultra
Maybe switch Electrode and Auran with Bronze and Nurse (the two of them should stay together). Neoīs combat powness will balance Taoīs comparatively week magic (and the damage heīs carrying around).

@Vegas
Oh, ok, I misunderstood, I thought, the plastics where wraped around the box! Sorry embarrassed.gif
Rokur
well... i still don't know how many teams or what the hell we're even planning... so, that said, I'd rather not do so much work for nothing... u know what I'm saying.
MK Ultra
Sure, was just a suggestion.

So, if we want to build more decoys, how many should that be?

IC, Tao would probably want them (decoys + real box) to be either 3 or 9 (maybe 8, but thats not so good) as everything in betweem would be unlucky numbers. wink.gif
Rokur
how bout 1 per teammate?
Fresno Bob
So 20 decoys? How are we going to tell the original apart?
Silo
JJ lives at the garage as well. He sleeps on whoever has the most comfortable couch. If anyone has a couch. If not...he'll have some sort of matress he drags out with his big bad squatter lifestyle.

If you have to give him a room, he'll take it, but I would prefer that he be a complete lush.

SO...out of JAX, TF, and Halo, which of you has a couch?
MK Ultra
Thatīs a good question, I asked to myself, too. But I have no answer yet.
Wait, though. Who says, they all have to look the same? We could even put numbers on them, though less obvious markings will do. Though if these markings are to obvious the swaping on the fly option wouldnīt work that good anymore.
Dranem
I seem to recall that the original box was beaten up and covered in tape. If we colour tag one box from another, then we can tell the real McCoy from the others.
MK Ultra
@ Silo
Tao probably wouldnīt have one either, he probably sleeps on the floor, in the sleeping bag of his survival kit.
Dranem
Don't know if anyone read my full background and such, but I put it in my Residence tab that the McGees have a spare room. As long as you don't steal from the family and clean up your mess, you have a room to stay in.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Dranem)
As long as you don't steal from the family and clean up your mess, you have a room to stay in.

You realize which characterīs player you posted this to, do you? biggrin.gif

@IC strategy
Jaidīs/Electrodes proposal sounds really good to me!
Silo
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
QUOTE (Dranem @ Apr 5 2006, 08:02 PM)
As long as you don't steal from the family and clean up your mess, you have a room to stay in.

You realize which characterīs player you posted this to, do you? biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif It might not be a good idea to have JJ stay there.

But for the sake of conversation, what kind of car do they have?
Silo
Speaking of other people's stuff....does anyone care if JJ keeps the Predetor from the ork gangers?

His best weapon right now is just a light pistol and he only has like a clip and a half left for it.
MK Ultra
@Silo
Iīd not feel that comfortable, using a looted gun, as one never knows, how dirty it is. Iīd rather sell it. However after voicing this concern, TF wouldnīt object vehemently to anyone using looted stuff, until it is sold off.

@Kartijan
TF will take Nurse to the backroom, ASAP, to speak to her in private. She can use medic on him then. Though heīd prefer, to talk to her alone, he would agree to take along Bronze and to a lesser degree, Felix, but nobody else.

@Dranam
If TF goes to the backroom with Nurse, he will insist, that she does not give Nurse access to the feed from the main room, until after he has talked to her, however, he will record it for her, if she wants to take a look later.

EDIT:
Iīll grab some sleep now, gn8
Mister Juan
So, how about we just start throwing ideas concerning what we're going to do about that box guarding.
Dranem
I like the last idea in Auran's Mechanics page:
QUOTE (http://the410crash.wikispaces.com/PC+-+Auran+-+Mechanics)

OK, so... if we split up more seperate...

- CD, Felix, Aziz, JAX, JJ
- Halo, Tao, Electrode, Auran, Neo
- Raven, Bronze, Nurse, Thyn, Toy

Tentative.... split 3 racers, 3 mages, and 3 electronic warfares.... was thinking of keeping someone with perception on each team...


Though Wyrm would want Felix on her team, but that's for personal reasons. wink.gif
That would give us 3 boxes, 2 decoys, considering it's for 3 days, I wouldn't get too elaborate on our plan... the A's gave us the box cause we're a neutral party, perferably cause we wouldn't be suspect, though they needed to know if we could defend ourselves if something goes down.
Silo
I'm game. Although, I really don't think we should get too elaborate.

At first, that is what I was thinking too, but then I came down to earth. JJ isn't a shadowrunner and neither are any of the others. We're gangers.

Let's just keep it simple and see what happens.
Dranem
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
@Dranam
If TF goes to the backroom with Nurse, he will insist, that she does not give Nurse access to the feed from the main room, until after he has talked to her, however, he will record it for her, if she wants to take a look later.

Wyrm will only follow Nurse if she asks, she can always find out what Nurse is up to wink.gif
Dranem
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
QUOTE (Dranem @ Apr 5 2006, 08:02 PM)
As long as you don't steal from the family and clean up your mess, you have a room to stay in.

You realize which characterīs player you posted this to, do you? biggrin.gif

Actually the offer was for Halo not for JJ. wink.gif

As for what my parents drive, I hadn't given that aspect any thought yet.
Vegas
K.I.S.S. it y'all.

Two teams, make sure the real McCoy has at least one or two powerhouses on its guard duty and dump the rest of the team to babysit the dud. Repackage them so they look identical, RFID Tag them some code words the gang agree on to keep them seperated... Like have the girls code name them brands of shoes. "Jimmy Cho's" for the legit piece, "Nine West" for the crap... or something updated for 2070 biggrin.gif

Glue the lids shut "descreetly" wrap both in "protective plastic" on the outside and have the girls transport them. They get screwed with, they just went "shopping" for shoes nyahnyah.gif

Or something similar but better thought out nyahnyah.gif
Silo
What if we all stay in one spot...

If the drek hits, we fight and there are more of us. Perhaps our superior numbers gives us the win.

If it is obvious we aren't going to win, JJ, CD, Halo, and Raven all take off on bikes and split up. We could be carrying a passenger each as well. One of these units would have the package.

If we had to do the split, the hackers in the groups would do a coordinated attack on our assailants to stop them from pursuing...or at least to slow them down.
Mister Juan
So we have:

-Split in two teams
-Split in three teams
-All bundle up in the same location (HQ)
-Split in two teams were one goes on the boat and the other stays in at the HQ
-Dig a hole and hide the box
-Go down to CalFree
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