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Rokur
A little busy right now! we learned about it and moved to rahim in a matter of in game seconds.... so sorry, not yet! nyahnyah.gif

[edit] sarcastic.gif [/edit]
Silo
QUOTE (DireRadiant)
Is anyone who heard Treeno comment about covering for the 410 Crash going to pass that along to the rest of the gang?

While I can understand the thrill seekers ignoring Treeno's whining about bullets flying around hitting innocent civilians, it might be important to note that the Star was specifically asking about the gang.

JJ let a few people know and will let the rest now when he returns to the HQ.

I would imagine that everyone assumes the Star talked to every shop owner in the vicinity of the SS as well as a local hangout like the Zo e.

But, I'll mention it to them. JJ doesn't see it as something that needs immediate broadcasting.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Rokur)
@MK - you can never know your contacts moods to you... Your contacts may not like you, but they will help you out etc. You can't assume he's always friendly, or advantageous, or others. Hell, he could be racist against elves for all I know!

Sure, you can never be, that was just what I would assume. TG has to make the call obviously. But by listing the possible modifires and rolling with then assuming the best, you can just speed things up. TG can allways ignore the last x results, thats the beauty of a dice roller wink.gif .

On Rahim, IIRC I forgot to post that you should also ask him for information, after the deal is sattled.

I think I´m catching a cold. dead.gif
Vegas
QUOTE (ES_Sparky)
I made a pass at group contacts (assigning the points that were sitting around).

Go take a look and add your comments/suggestions. (Part 2)

Looks good to me... how the *$@()*@#$@)( did I miss Doc Blue = Nurse's Dad?!?!

Jesus I'm getting old and slow (or sloppy)
MK Ultra
::EDIT:: Probably both ::TIDE::

Thats what happens, when you spend all your time, detonating explosive devices in your office (while your still inside). nyahnyah.gif
MK Ultra
@ All
Who´s Sarrah Condice, is she known to us?
Silo
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
@ All
Who´s Sarrah Condice, is she known to us?

Not to me. I think it was just a random person.
Vegas
Or she's just someone in the neighborhood. Y'know someone we'd "know of" but not necessarily *know* like a contact or anything. I mean with as small as the turf is and with how many of us grew up around there, I'd assume we'd know a LOT of the people who belong there and those that don't.

@GM if I'm wrong, please straighten me out nyahnyah.gif
Silo
That's what I meant by random person.

I'd imagine we know EVERYONE on our turf. I mean, come on, it is only like two streets. Speaking of which...we need to expand.

What is the interpretation of the gang zones?

Is there buffer between our turf and the next gang's turf?

Who are the gangs next to us?

What is our feeling towards them?

...Just some things that probably need to be worked out.
Goliath
Hello every one,

So this is my character so far im having trouble buying my comlink programs and gear. If any one can give me some info

Name: Mac Frasiure
Street name: Goliath
Race: Ork (20bps)

Bod: 4 Agi: 5 Rea:5 Str:3 Cha: 3 int: 5 Log: 4 Will: 3 Edge 2

Skills

Cyber Combat 3
Dodge 2
Electronic SG 3
Electronic warfare 3
Forgery 2
Hacking 4
Preception 2
Pistol 2

Sentative system +10 BP

8Bp left for gear 20,000 nuyen.gif

Can some one please help me after this.. I really want to get in before its to late.
Vegas
QUOTE (Dranem @ Apr 10 2006, 11:45 PM)
Outside of using the barely used 'Discussion' Tab in the wiki, private messages here on the board, I guess the only other alternative would be IRC...
irc.dumpshock.com for all your chat needs biggrin.gif

The discussion tab on the Wiki is too clunky for speedy stuff not to mention not friendly to multiple people trying to edit it at the same time, and PM's are slow and take up so much "space".

IRC makes sense, if the servers weren't all FUBAR'ed and if people actually used them nyahnyah.gif

I'm bored, I set up #410Crash on irc.dumpshock.com
MK Ultra
QUOTE (Vegas)
I'm bored, I set up #410Crash on irc.dumpshock.com

internet & computer unsavy that I am, can you instruct me how to cet ther (Last time I used IRC was like in the 90´s and I´d need to reinstall the software).

"Say please, BrightLight!"
"Please BrightLight."
MK Ultra
@ Goliath
I think you have overspent 20 bp! I counted 330 (-10 for Sensitive System). So you should get enother 20 bp worth of negative Qualities or cut the character some..
You may allso consider to put some points into contacts.
HeySparky
I've entered your info into Goliath's character sheet at the wiki site. You were spending 40 points separately on the 3 skills of the Cracking Group, and getting the Cracking group is a better use of points so I put them together into Cracking 4.

By my calculations you're 20 bp over. Someone check my math, please.
MK Ultra
Checked (see above).

Though I believe the limit for Group Skills was 3!
Silo
QUOTE (ES_Sparky)
Someone check my math, please.

MK checked your math before you asked for it. Lol...
HeySparky
Nah, we cross posted while I was dutifully entering Goliath's info at the wiki. smile.gif
MK Ultra
I had seen it coming, that ES Sparky would ask for it nyahnyah.gif
Vegas
ooooh Psychic!
MK Ultra
Yea, thats me biggrin.gif

Can´t get IRC running without help in less the 9 days work, but reading peaples thoughts, befor they think them nyahnyah.gif

So, Vegas, would you be my good fairy?
Goliath
QUOTE (ES_Sparky @ Apr 11 2006, 01:58 PM)
I've entered your info into Goliath's character sheet at the wiki site. You were spending 40 points separately on the 3 skills of the Cracking Group, and getting the Cracking group is a better use of points so I put them together into Cracking 4.

By my calculations you're 20 bp over. Someone check my math, please.

Sorry I see the mistake.. my agi is suposed to be at a 3(20bps) typo on my part
-EDIT-
Also dosent senstavie system give me 10 bp to work with since im taking a hit on it... Basicly Black ICE hurts me worse.
MK Ultra
You confused sensitive system (essence loss * 2) with sensitive neural structure.
Goliath
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
You confused sensitive system (essence loss * 2) with sensitive neural structure.

Yeah sorry my bad... I meant the sensitive neural structure
MK Ultra
Yes thats 10 bp for Hackers, with Agil 3 you would be ok.
Goliath
So with that change I should have 8 points left over for gear and contacts.....am I right?
HeySparky
Yeah.

EDIT: You're welcome, MK.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (ES_Sparky)
You're welcome, MK.

Thanks ... I mean, Uh, what?

Did I read your mind again, without intention, or something? Sorry, that happens with people I´m physically attracted too nyahnyah.gif
HeySparky
No, I saved you from The Conspiracy.
MK Ultra
Ah, that´s probably why I´m physically attracted to you biggrin.gif
Goliath
Used two points for my contact level 1 1

That leaves me with 6 points left for gear..I need to get my comlink and programs with this. This is were I need help.. im not sure how to create my comlink.
Vegas
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
Yea, thats me biggrin.gif

Can´t get IRC running without help in less the 9 days work, but reading peaples thoughts, befor they think them nyahnyah.gif

So, Vegas, would you be my good fairy?

I didn't have to wear a lacy skirt and wave a wand did I? biggrin.gif
MK Ultra
@Vegas

Well should keep that to the IRC wink.gif
Rokur
ok 6 BP translates into 15000 nuyen.gif
comms have ratings. Signal (How good your connection is) and Response (how good the processor is - thus is affected by amount of programs running at once). you also have to buy an operating system for it(OS) which have firewall (duh!) and System (max rating of your programs) ratings in them. So buy 1 commlink, and buy 1 OS for it, and that is you.

Programs -
common use programs = (not sure, but analyze, browse, command, edit and others)
Always available
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *50 nuyen.gif
for rating 4-6 (though currently max rating is 4) = rating *100

hacking programs = (attacks, black stuff, and exploit, etc)
Availability = Rating *2 (so your current max rating 3.... since max avail is 6)
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *500 nuyen.gif

Finally Agents (Jones....)
Availabilty = Rating *3 (so current max is rating 2)
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *1000 nuyen.gif

think you can figure it out from here???
Vegas
I thought BP's for cash/gear was @ 2,500/BP house rule? Am I wrong? Because if so, I wanna fix Halo's CS nyahnyah.gif
DireRadiant
The Old Wiki China Doll character sheet here has an example of a commlink and programs. Probably close to what you will want, thought your programs will focus on hacking and combat rather then commanding drones.
Rokur
QUOTE (Vegas)
I thought BP's for cash/gear was @ 2,500/BP house rule? Am I wrong? Because if so, I wanna fix Halo's CS nyahnyah.gif

6*2500 = 15000 proof.gif sleepy.gif
Vegas
*sighs* I'm gonna just go stick my head in the oven now already.

Thanks.
HeySparky
QUOTE (Rokur)
ok 6 BP translates into 15000 nuyen.gif
comms have ratings. Signal (How good your connection is) and Response (how good the processor is - thus is affected by amount of programs running at once). you also have to buy an operating system for it(OS) which have firewall (duh!) and System (max rating of your programs) ratings in them. So buy 1 commlink, and buy 1 OS for it, and that is you.

Programs -
common use programs = (not sure, but analyze, browse, command, edit and others)
Always available
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *50 nuyen.gif
for rating 4-6 (though currently max rating is 4) = rating *100

hacking programs = (attacks, black stuff, and exploit, etc)
Availability = Rating *2 (so your current max rating 3.... since max avail is 6)
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *500 nuyen.gif

Finally Agents (Jones....)
Availabilty = Rating *3 (so current max is rating 2)
prices = for rating 1-3 = rating *1000 nuyen.gif

think you can figure it out from here???

So, when buying up ratings... if you want a level 3 program you have to pay for levels 1, 2 AND 3, right?

Dranem
No, you just buy the program at level 3. Otherwise you have 2 redundant programs and 10 times the cost.
Wounded Ronin
So, just to make sure that I understand t3h battle plan...

There's 3 teams, and 1 decoy? One team would get the box, another would grab the decoy, and the teams would run around randomly?
MK Ultra
We are going to produce another decoy, so 2 de, 1 real.

EDIT: The plan is not to run, unless absolutely necessary. Then we would split up into the teams..
Wounded Ronin
Well, the strategy dosen't matter too much to me in the end, but for a poorly armed gang isn't hunkering down a bad idea? OPFOR can just hammer the hideout with artillery and crap and keep it surrounded. If there's a seige the poorly armed gang loses.

Instead if we scatter and run around like chickens with our heads cut off it's harder to bring concentrated firepower to bear and there's a higher probability of the box simply not being found by OPFOR.

Meh, whatever. In character I'm not sure how my character would think because she's not very strategic in the first place.
MK Ultra
I have a bit of a hard time planing without doing in-person discussion and having some maps frown.gif
Vegas
Damn, JAX isn't excited is he? biggrin.gif

And, so as far as the box goes. We don't know who knows (if anyone) besides the A's that we even have the damn thing.. so it's just as likely that the majority of the 3 days might coast by, on the other hand... Double crosses and all kinds of "fun" stuff are possible. biggrin.gif
Rokur
well, come up with a good plan and we'll throw it around the forums for a few days (or weeks) and we'll probably still have time to implement it IC
MK Ultra
fun sarcastic.gif

nyahnyah.gif
Wounded Ronin
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Apr 11 2006, 06:16 PM)
I have a bit of a hard time planing without doing in-person discussion and having some maps frown.gif

Well, the stuff I said is more strateic rather than tactical. What I mean is that it's not on the level of detail where we'd have to look at maps because I'm not talking about specific manuvers yet.

It's just that it seems to me that a raggedy bunch of teenagers who hunker down in a makeshift hideout is probably going to lose if OPFOR simply lays seige. If we're in a building, but the building gets surrounded and someone starts dumping mortar rounds onto that building, we're basically screwed.

On the other hand, if three groups of raggedy teenagers run screaming randomly around the city anyone would have a hard time following them all.

See, there are just general statements of principle, so they don't involve maps just yet.

EDIT: Heh, not sure I can bring this up IC because Toy might not be smart enough to articulate this through language barriers and all. She's definitely more of a follower than a leader.
HeySparky
OPFOR? Good lord man, who do you think is coming after us? I think this is a fine plan for a bunch of punks to have cooked up.

And, if you look, we're actually doing what you say - scattering to the winds. smile.gif Only bad thing is that I don't think anyone has remembered any of the boxes.

MK Ultra
We can discuss it here anyway. Some of the many pcs or npcs could have brought it up.

Though TF would never think about mortar rounds!
Vegas
Keep in mind, we're all 14-19 year old Street kids not hardened Shadowrunners, or ex-millitary. Not saying we don't have strategy or we're all stupid, but we also haven't been in a gang together for what, more than a month or 2 tops?

Yeah, no one took boxes because we didn't take our entire teams nor did we expect to be out for hours or anything while scoring some Nova. smile.gif
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