Should TR roll init, or should I wait till the GM says what happens re the stealth attempt?

(Also, if someone could give me the formula for init I'd be very grateful.)

Initiative is Reaction + Intuition (plus modifiers).

To get your Initiative Total for the round roll your Initiative and add the hits to your Initiative.

i.e. with Ini 8 (8 dice -> 3 hits) -> Ini for the round = 11

Bye
Thanee

REA + INT + modifiers (magic, wires) = your initiative score

everyone has one initiative pass each round, plus any additional actions their abilities grant. I don't recall of the top of my head what TR has in the way of init modifying cyber, but if she has Wired 1, she adds the rating to her initiative score AND her number of initiative passes (which are additional sets of actions she can take)

@Voorhees
You should also roll initiative.... in case one of the orks goes before you, or someone else in the group.

Raven's Initiative is 8 (6 + 2 hits).

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Thanee

Okay, make that 8 hits.

And, initiative... yeah

3 hits, plus 7 Initiative, so Aziz's initative is 10.

Just to keep track:

Current Combat:
PCs Initiative:
-Aziz: 10
-JJ: 11
-Felix: 6
-Raven: 8
-Neo:
-Cammy: 7
-ToyRobot:

I'm just going to say for simplicity that if you guys jump the orks there's no surprise unless you utilize magic to mask your approach, then we'll go by normal surprise rules.

If someone doesn't mind, could they collect all of the initiatives so far on a page in the Wiki? It'd also be helpful if everyone states their number of IP along with their initiative rolls.

In HQ, a Gang ID (1) roll nets you:

Alright, well, my attack still stands even if theres no surprise round.

I have a question about the spirit's initiative.

There is astral initiative and physical initiative. Right now the spirit is astral, so that would used... but how does it affect initiative, if the spirit materializes?

Does it change somehow, or does it just stay the same throughout the round depending on the state at the beginning of the round?

This is especially weird with initiative passes, which are different for astral and physical initiative.

Anyways...

The spirit's astral initiative is 10 (8 + 2 hits)

The spirit's physical initiative is 17 (12 + 5 hits)

Bye
Thanee

P.S. Wounded Ronin: Yes, that's right.

Rolling on actions -
Observe in detail - map area of meet.

Well, if memory serves, whatever the spirit's initiative, when you just summoned it, it simply cannot act before it's summoner (basically, it needs an order). So, for the first round, its initiative score doesn't really matter I guess.

Doh! That wiki is not very fail-safe, it doesn't even mention (or I didn't see it anywhere at least), if the page was edited in the meantime, while you had it open to change something.

I managed to overwrite all your last changes on the initiative (adding IPs and TR's init), MisterJuan, but should have fixed that back up now.

Bye
Thanee

FWIW, I added the full spirit stats to the wiki combat page for easy reference.

Bye
Thanee

@ GM & Kartijan

The remote First Aid Test for Nurse would have the following stats.

Logic (5) + First Aid (3) + Remote (-2) + Conditions (-1) + Medkit (4) + Magical Patient (-2) + Home Ground (2) = 9

I don´t know, if skilled Assistent (1), max. +3, would apply, if there was say BronzeWyrm assisting remotely or Nurses mother or father (but the later one would probably have better stats then she has, so she would assist).

The Threshhold is 2, any net successes heal one box each (max boxes = Skill) and it takes 6 combat turns (18 seconds).

EDIT: OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, TF has forgotten his last cigarette in the ashtray at the HQ
Which brings me to ask, is the resorption of nicotin enhanced with bleeding in the lung? I guess not.

@ MK, meh, I'm more scared of the glitch on the stealth test then TF memorizing her keypad.

@ Rokur
take a peak here

Ah, I did. Its 10.

well, last time i looked at the post where he rolled initiative, it was 10 =P

[edit] dang... got beaten to the punch =P

anyways, just thought i'd point out TG... the choice i made was indicated in the response, as well as in the updated character sheet. what you may not have realised is that while all the changes are in bold, the things that i removed to make room for the things that i added have a - next to them, to indicate they were subtracted

like i said, unless you specifically *want* me to have an alpha on a doberman, then i don't have it... i have an AK-97 assault rifle on the third doberman instead (possibly i will later get it a shotgun as it's secondary option as well. and possibly i will get them all alphas at some point in the future too )

so yeah, keeping in mind that anything i subtracted has a - symbol next to it, is Electrode ready to go? [/edit]

@TG

Once nick rolls Neo's Initiative, can we just start the combat or do we need to wait on more from you?

@ Kartijan
So, do you make the First Aid roll, or should I do that for you?

EDIT: ah, ok, q answert, more q spawned.

The code-box says 8 hits, but shows only one 6 and no 5 rolled, so that would be 1 hit, wouldn´t it. If so, no boxes were healed, because the TH is 2.

Adding the Medkit for max boxes makes sense, otherwise kit-only had a limit or 0.

EDIT2: Ah, seams as if your roller used a SR3-Threshold, meaning 2 and higher rolled is a success, but in SR4 you always have to roll 5 or 6 for a hit and the TH is the base number of hits you need.

I put it in as 8 hits because I thought my target number was 2, if I'm wrong then yes, only one success and I didn't manage to help you at all

Yeah...all target #s are 5 now. All of them.

Sad. Thanks for the effort anyway, all on his own, TF would only have had a dice pool of 2, so no chance at all..

You could still use an Edgepoint, to reroll all non-successes. But I wouldn´t really recommand it, saving the Edge for life and death situations, as it probably won´t refresh very often.

Agreed, and sorry.

Never mind, the 6 boxes of damage are my own fault after all

you played the roullette game of conjuring and lost

for the record, it is precisely for this sort of thing that i highly recommend having a good first aid skill and heal spell known as a mage...

having tried to summon an F3 spirit and taken 6 drain from it (thankfully stun), i noticed it was a much much quicker recovery when throwing something like 12 dice (including awakened penalty) to patch myself up =P

also, it's important (for precisely that threshold reason) to heal up between each summoning attempt, if at all possible.

Sure, I would have done so, if I didn´t have the drain rules mixed up. If I had known, there were 2 boxes just after the first try, I would have fixed up first. After the 3 boxes of the second try, I´d no way have tried a third time.

It was just a clusterfrag of mixed up rules and forgotten hometurf mod.

OOPS! didn't note time restraint, was 15 seconds off.... but hey, feel free to roll with it if it works, otherwise we're in spoiler zone to be done later.

@ Rokur
We aren´t supposed to post further then 20:10:00, or was that aleviated by Slams last post? Anyway, Your not that fare, so if we don´t post further, we´d be ok. But you could still simply Edit the time to 20:10:00. Then we´r on the save side.

I saw that, but I'm sure glitches have to mean SOMETHING.

PS will change post. didn't notice time restraint.

Random question...

Thanks to the Home Turf Quality, do the Automechanics get a +2 dice mod to working on cars and bikes in The Garage?


Thyme...

Ah, check, it runs parrallel to the 167.

We´d probably ru bridge, pacific and valley, or traffic and 410, no long ride.

EDIT: Home Turff wouldn´t apply, I think.

Initiative never goes up during a round, though it can go down. So when a spirit materializes its Initiative score goes up, but it has less IPs. So for the rest of that round, it loses an IP but its initiative score does not rise. If a spirit dematerializes, its Initiative Score drops but it doesn't get an extra IP. You lose either way you go.

Although you recalculate normally next round for what that's worth.

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As far as first aid goes, I would strongly suggest that you get more than one character in on it (for example: Cammy and Nurse), and do it in person, and do it in a protected setting. First Aid is really valuable and you want to grab every modifier you can - otherwise you end up bleeding from the mouth for days.

-Frank

So, here we go:

Observe in detail from the car.