Edited my IC post again, to conform with Rokurs treasonous changes

EDIT: Put up again

C410 channel

IC - anyone in the gang can join, it's lightly encrypted but everyone has or can have a key, and a login and password. Why haven'y you joined or been on channel? Up to you, it's open. It's new, you didn't read the text message, you didn't know about it till now, you did know but aren't logged in, whatever. It all works. We are a new gang!

This does not conflict with any other IC posts, it's perfectly reasonable to have multiple modes of communications, in fact this is more likely then a wide open channel with 30 people on it.

It's Augmented Reality. So think of it as a multi media IRC channel. When we say it's a chat room, it really does appear as a chat room. It can look, sound, feel and smell. People with the right gear, cameras, microphones, and other sensors, and a commlink can transmit video, audio, and simsense data over the channel. This means almost anyone can be the gangs eyes and ears. It's powerful and has implications. Have fun.

Actually, it might only be EX ammo. Can't remember off hand. He only has like four bullets, though.

Anyway, everyone involved in the combat, please put up your round two actions either here or on the Wiki (and if here, someone please put them on the Wiki). I'll get the next (and probably final) round of the combat out this weekend sometime.

I'd promise tonight, but it's my wife's birthday and I'm taking her out for a nice evening of no children and all that.

The 'Make a New Page' button has disappeared for me.

EDIT: Disregard. Wasn't logged in.

With me, it´s still there, maybe you were signed off somehow?

EDIT: Sorry, wasn´t quick enough to disregard

@TinkerGnome: Did you make the extra roll (stunning effect) for the electricity damage (page 154, 3rd paragraph under Electricity Damage)?

Body+Willpower+Half Impact(3) or fall and be incapacitated.

If successful, the shotgun orc still gets a -2 dice pool modifier for 5 rounds (minus his hits on the Defense Roll).


Oh yeah, and the spirit's attack does only stun damage. Couldn't really figure out how to add a column to the table (the orc's only have one for physical damage), or how to format a table on the wiki.


Also, do we just keep the initiative results from the 1st round, or should we roll new ones?

Bye
Thanee

Round #2 / 1st IP:

Air Spirit uses Engulf on the shotgun orc (5 hits).

Parried like a regular melee attack; any remaining (net) hits increase the base DV of 4S; armor does not help, only Body is rolled for Damage Resistance.


Raven peers out of the door and casts a Stun Bolt (Force 4) at the shotgun orc (3 hits; base DV 4S). No Drain.

Bye
Thanee

If he uses the rules for group NPCs, they have only one combined phys & stun monitor.

Ah, that's why.

Bye
Thanee

It still anoys me, that it anoys me

There are advantages and disadvantages to the single damage track. It makes life easier on the whole, though, so I go with it.

I added some probable NPC actions to the Wiki to help speed things up a bit.

Oh, and you keep initiative from round to round.

The shotgun orc escapes the Engulf (only 2 hits on the opposed test).

Bye
Thanee

I've been shot! Okay, damage test.

Sure

...

Want me to roll for the radio signal scan?
Should be Hardware + device rating if I'm not mistaken...

@Voorhees
Don't forget to take into acount the armor spell.

Don't spirits automatically manifest (manifest, not materialize) when they are summoned?

That's how I understood it, at least.

Bye
Thanee

The book says so, I just recently read it up.

Well, the answer I got from Michelle Lyons was "If the spell doesn’t take effect for you, then you can’t observe it to see through it in the first place." - which means to me that if the magician gets a net hit he's invisible, and if the observer gets a net hit he knows that the magician is trying to be invisible. So no net hits means that the observer doesn't see anything at all.

If Cammy is covered by Spell Defense, she gets a second hit:

So where did we end up on where Gymnastics fits into Full Defense... Interpretations clearly vary, so we need a ruling on this from TG, since he's the arbiter of all things crunchy.

If I missed any declaration from him on this, link me. I've been known to miss even the most obvious. **coughSpreadsheetcough**

just for the record... i don't believe SR4 *has* a whips skill per se. it has a monowhip skill, sure. but there is no generalised whip skill, AFAICT. thus, it would be a separate skill for monowhip, normal whip, your chain whippy thingamajig, and any other "whip-like" weapon.

Whips are considered and Exotic Melee weapon in the rules (as like many other RPGs) If you want to use a chain or a spiked chain with any accuracy, you'll need to put points into Exotic Melee Weapon (weapon type)

Ok, this has been bugging me and I can't figure it out, but...

Is there any significance to the bolded vs. non-bolded characters on the Wiki front page?

The Exotic Weapon rules are frankly a mess. The rules in the Combat chapter (ex.: page 149), the Friends and Foes chapter (ex.: page 296), and the Street Gear chapter (ex.: page 317) are all written from the standpoint of "Exotic Melee Weapon" being a skill that applies to any random exotic melee weapon you happen to pick up; but the actual skill description of Exotic Melee Weapon on page 112 specifies that you have to choose a single exotic weapon when you select the skill and that's the only weapon you can use.

Which means that there's really no way to effectively use exotic weapons. When you pick up a bicycle chain it directs you to use your "Exotic Melee Weapon" skill, but since noone actually has "Exotic Melee Weapon: Bicycle Chain", it's just always a defaulted skill for everyone.

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What they probably should have said was that Exotic Melee Weapon can't be purchased higher than your Close Combat Group, but that it applied to every Exotic Melee Weapon you picked up (ditto for Exotic Ranged Weapon and Firearms). But with the actual written rules, attempting to use Exotic Weapons of any sort is a sucker's game (exception allowed only for monofilament whips, but only because the weapon itself is crazy-go-nuts awesome).

-Frank

well, in the case of electrode i'm pretty sure it's 'cause of the ** on either side (which the wiki understands to have something to do with bolding things. regardless of how far between them, AFAICT. not sure why he's not bolded though =P

Aziz is going to go ahead with my stated actions and attack the leader ork on his next pass. I did the rolling a tad earlier in the thread.

I guess I should roll for Toy's attempt to stab the manhunter guy, which is what she'd like to do next.

I don't know if I should add dice for Home Ground, so instead I'm just going to roll agility + edged weapons.

That's 7 dice for agility and 4 for blades.

Because I´m bored, TF will read Auran´s aura:

Teamwork with watchers:
Peanut

We're keeping intiative scores from the first round for this combat only. I realize that looking at the rules you should reroll them, but since I already said we were going to use the old ones, we'll stick with that.

The only immediate question I have is for Cammy. You realize that the guy you're attacking is inside the truck, right? How are you going about attacking him? His door is locked and the windows are not see-thru (one way windows in all vehicles).

EDIT: Read first, post later.

Fight at SS
Felix
Combat Turn #2

If the ork mage has succesfully summoned something, Felix will drop the armor spell he has up on Aziz once his turn has arrived (which means that Felix will keep the armor spell up until his action) and attempt to banish it.

Fight at SS
Aziz
Combat Turn #2

Aziz is going to attack any ork outside the truck.

'either ... or' does stand for exclusive or, tho. I think he's right there.

Bye
Thanee

While we are discussing rules. How about the exotic weapons? It depends on whether I´d have to pick a seperate skill for each the steel whip and the bludgeoning Jojo or one exotic mele skill that includes both (I´m not really interested in mono-whips).
If I´d need 2 skills, I´d rather keep the focus as a sword, since I will eventually learn blades anyway and take exotic for Jojo. Yet another exotic for steel whip would just be too much, even in a fast karma champaign.

EDIT:
Have put up my next IC post for preview at the wiki. Everybody involved in the meeting, especialy Auran, Bronze Wyrm and everybody else staying in the Nightsky might want to do something, that doesn´t fit with my post, if so, pleas suggest changes.

I know what the book says (and doesn´t) on this topic. I´d want to know, what Tinker Gnome says. Thats what GM´s are fore, and thats why I prefer real RPG over computer games

Way I understand it, is that you could most like do it by weapon type... just like most of ther skills... If you take say Exotic Weapons Whips, you would be proficient in any weapon considered a wip.
You could focus on what weapon in particular, as some martial artists do, but I guess that would be the decision of the GM