Don't forget Goliath, new technomancer. Technomancer, right?

@Goliath

I put together Goliath's character template at the wiki - you'll find it under the 'What' section: PCs Under Construction. Or... go here and start editing.

Feel free to give me a holler if you have any questions.

I think he was going to be a regular hacker (and I think there shouldn´t be any more TM´s), IIRC.

actually, i'm pretty sure he said normal hacker. or at least, that's what he was thinking about before.

of course, not having seen his character sheet, i can hardly give an accurate, up-to-date response... but last i heard, that's what he was thinking.

[edit] argh, beaten to punch... teach me to go looking elsewhere to try and confirm my answers before i post [/edit]

Right... hacker. That's right. Off of the template.

Ah well, it can be an introduction to editing.

ok, gone and taken a closer look at what i have...

i have 500 meters of microwire, an industrial tool kit (useful for making the Y even more defensible), a miniwelder (for welding on metal armor to defensive positions) a glue sprayer (for attaching anything not metal as armor to defensive positions), wire cutters (for cutting the microwire to specifications) and 4 holoprojectors + some programs to make the area look different and such using them. i also have one more holoprojector, but it's for personal use, and as such has to project near me

Jaid, always insist on the fact, that you are right, until someone proves you where wrong (than say, they misunderstood, and you meant it the other way around, all along ).

Makes life much easyer!

Well, it makes life lonlyer, but that is easyer

EDIT:
TF´s got a welder and clipper, too, as well as 3 flashbangs and 3 Thermosmoke!

He also has got an AK+smart (though not much ammo) and a Smartgun (this one has a Soundsupressor!), that he can give to someone, who can actually hit a troll with it, with some accruricy (no not using it as a club ).

EDIT 2:
Oh, well, the guns are probably still in Auran´s car

EDIT 3:
So, where would the teams go, in the event of an escape? I think the bikes can be stocked inside the Y conveniently, but the cars and hover might be a bit problematic.
Besides, I just remembered, TF will have a really bad feeling about holeing up, due to his profecy, but he won´t say that outright (also due to the profecy). I figure, most of the gang will figure, the holeing up will be a three days party, only with keeping to the Y and having weapons handy.

@ Jaid
BTW, we dont have to listen to the A-Team theme, while glueing and welding (and nailing for Cammy) junk together, do we?

Question... does anyone have levitate? or a parachute? or something that would help jumping off a fifth floor roof?

Hahah, this just keeps getting better and better.
Babysitting a fucking gun while high on novacoke.
Looks like Halo's in for a hell of a birthday

I had offered to Goliath that a few of us could help him build a lower end character, that the template would probably confuse him more than help.... Outside of getting ideas for Knowledge skills, I haven't used any of the archetypes in the book.

But then again, I've played SR for some 6 years now

I find it funny how MK thinks of the redheads as so innocent... dude if you only knew what they've been through!
Wyrm for one has grown up in a Tattoo parlour and seen just about any kind of rough and tumble slot out there, and even taken part in torturing their skin (I figure she makes about 100-200 a week working for her dad) - not to mention her time with the Tribe (Which I add in from time to time as personal thoughts for flavour)
Nurse's parents own a talisman shop and shadow clinic, she's seen just about every kind of street thug and Shadowrunner come through either door and often laying under the knife. She's seen blood, trauma and possibly even death. (Wyrm has seen death, and even faced it)

So, yeah, the reds aren't exactly what you would call innocent teens, then again in these streets since the Crash, I don't think any of us are.... but just thought the FYI would help you place the girls better.

Then again, most of this stuff the gang will find out in time - I like how many of us are developing rich personalities for their characters, this is the time of gaming I've been looking for: deep characters with a mind and will instead of some 30 min cooked up job with a half baked story (and I unfortunately have run that way in my early years, it took me time to flesh out my main decker, an easier time to flesh out my bodyguard, and I had fun with a couple of others.)

Back to the vote: I still like the 3 team concept. But like Wyrm pointed out IC, keep the goup close so that we can see what's coming.. if we're too far apart, then we're divided and easier to conquer. MK's latest suggestion is find for me. Still would like Felix (we're kinda developping a 4 musketeers group with TF, TJ, Wyrm and Tag ), but even Wyrm will agree that two mages in one team would probably be an improper use of resources..

I'll have an IC post soon as I can figure out what to say.. might need to lay down a bit, still hurting.

I think that MK's suggestion for the team do make more sense. I was a bit scared that Team Two was missing "combatants" type, but if you do add 2by4 and Knives to it, I think it should be fine. So, updated roster for the teams:

Team One: CD, Felix, Aziz, JAX, JJ, 0day, Steel
Team Two: Halo, Tao, Bronze, Nurse, Auran, 2by4, Knives
Team Three: Raven, Electrode, Thyn, Toy, Neo, Cammy, Shade

All in all, I believe that fighting wise, Team Three is probably the strongest (so they might be the one with the box).

We should also start figuring out what the Y really looks like... since we might end up fighting in it.

RE group contacts

Understand that if you introduce someone to your fixer contact, they aren't just getting a fixer contact... they are getting YOUR fixer contact. That means that the odds of that person getting geeked go up a bit, they may not be able to help out more than one person at a time, and all sorts of other problems.

With that in mind, feel free to share contacts in that fashion instead of the group contact method... it's really the same thing, point-wise, as buying group contacts.

RE Slam

His preference is to be on the most active (or most likely to get attacked) group, even if it involves being a decoy. He likes to be out there doing stuff and leads from the front. It's one of his (few) good qualities.

Also remember that since this a game with a strong basis in collaborative fiction, you're free to suggest how Slam behaves and does things. Don't go to the extent of writing dialogue for him, but up to a point feel free to influence his actions.

RE Gang ID/Gang Turf

A Gang ID roll with 1 hit is sufficient to recognize a Spikes logo and have a pretty good idea on colors and other markings. 2 hits is sufficient to be sure about colors and markings.

A Gang Turf roll with 1 hit is sufficient to know that they have some degree of influence all over and hate the Ancients with a passion. 2 hits is enough to know that they are based out of... wherever they are based out of. Downtown, I think.

So, are we treating the people that don't come around anymore as NPCs?

That'd be a decent way to do it. Maybe drop an attribute or two along the way though.

So....does the gang have a drug dealer? If not, does anyone have a contact that can score some nova?

Sounds fine with me!

If someone was wondering what Felix was doing; he's going to the roof to get some quiet/calm time so he can summon watchers to guard the HQ perimeter.

@MK Ultra
Is TF planning on summoning some back?

Felix is probably only going to get two, and have them patrol for astral intruders while they set up the wards. He'll probably also get a Fire elemental (since it's about 9 hours till sunrise) if he's not too tired from the drain.

There's more than one way to access trodes If requested I can actually boost or enhance your signal output. Using my Reality Filter to bring us into a private VR environment, you see, fell, taste, and hear more - at least you could do that with SR3, not sure if that still works for technomancers. When you came across Otaku there was more to them, you could not only hear and see them, but you could feel and taste things in their presence - which is what made them so mysteriously powerful

It's just a suggestion... up to you really.

@Rokur
I'm all ok with the latest decision assign away, or you can wait till you and JJ get back from your drug run.

@Silo, Rokur & Vegas
TF would like to come along to the deal, if that´s ok, with the others. He just has to finish his business with Nurse (dont have so much time to post now).
Maybe Halo might want to come along, too. Having a trip, before retreating to the Y for 3 days.
This would make negotiations all the better.
We might as well take the car and go shopping for supplies while we are at it (and go for some little bit of partying maybe ).

@Mister Juan
He´ll probably call watchers, but not for long and will also summon a low power (1 or 2) spirit of men.

@Dranam
Well, he really prefered to have a talk in private. The thing with the cable was just to have the cheezy start to te conversation

Read U, guys, go sleeping now...

EDIT: @ Vegas
Looks like I read your mind
gn8

I don't think there needs to be a zillion force strong to get drugs, Halo just piped up with the intention of going in with Auran and negotiating the best deal possible for the most amount of Nova Coke. *shrugs* If she goes she goes, if she doesn't she doesn't. Besides, she wouldn't mind scoring a bit more of her drugs of choice with the way she's feeling right now.

Besides, it's not like we're all gonna come into the Y and lock everything up tight and not leave for 3 days. I'd think we'd need SOME come and go to keep things looking "normal" I mean, if you're trying to keep a low profile and not draw attention to the gang, I'd think it'd look kinda odd if every single member was suddenly not seen for 3 days

Also, I think the whole "bad shopping trip" experience involving going to the Stuffer is kinda hanging over all of our heads Not that it would likely stop Auran from going shopping... for shoes!

Well Nurse and Wyrm for one need to come and go...
After the weekend they're still in school.

Wyrm will keep constant tabs on the HQ's security monitors and alart or VR intervene if anything looks amiss.

Do we have any generic size for the Y's building?
like 100' by 75' or smaller?
how many floors?

Now I'm kicking this around in my head

This is the building I based my original calculations on:

@ GM & others
Say, how long takes the aplication of the Medicine Skill? Couldn´t find anything in the book. So, what would be resonable?

Unlike SR3, the 4th Edition is rather nebulous as to how long it takes to heal a character. Though the actions table lists any skill as being a complex action - meaning that Medicing and First Aid would take the time of a Complex Action to complete... Though I've always seen First Aid and Medicine as an extended test, where the time to heal someone changes depending situation modifiers.

Toy sit's down on the shoebox?! I don't think the box can takes Toy's weight chica...

I see medicine as assessing someone's injuries and giving them some good advice (and maybe making up bandages or changing them). So long as you're able to spend 5 minutes with the injured person a couple of times a day, it'll work. Or one longer session, I guess.

@DireRadiant
Sounds ok for me, though I´d really prefer to flesh them out in advance.

@ Voorhees

How about that?

@ DR - JJ gives you admin rights to his 'link.

@ Dire Radiant

TF will let CD tinker with his Icon, too. He was at the stuffer ~45 befor the fight and left a message for Auran, so she should spoof her comcode, too.

EDIT:
Say, is any of the players, that didn´t post for some while oficially out? (except Taisho, who is temporarily out).

I know a couple of people have mentioned before about not being where they could roll dice. Just found a nice, simple online roller:

http://shadowrun.dashifen.com/content/sr4/...ller_online.php