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DrZaius
QUOTE (Jack VII @ Apr 30 2014, 10:57 AM) *
Well, part of the premise was to have someone on guard duty, although since we weren't hit over the last several hours, it seems like no one has a lock on our position. The guard duty part may not be so important. Then again, we are sleeping in a house that is unoccupied because the previous owners were capped not too long ago and we have to roust some devil rats out of it, so I am not entirely sure how safe it is.

As it stands, it seems like Grease and Amy left Overkill and Jack unguarded and knocked out the relocation. If they don't mind leaving the house unguarded, they could go drop the first Fly-Spy at the chip house to try and get a lock on when Stinger shows up.


I slightly adjusted my IC post to reflect Jack and Overkill still sleeping. I'm fine moving the timeline forward to whenever.
-DrZ
Chrome Head
Amy will pick up some LiquidSoyMeal™ for everyone on her way back. After that I'm quite okay with fastforwarding with some extra sleep/small talk.

One thing she might do is look up what she can find on the matrix regarding human sacrifices during the full moon, and ask Grease to help. Not really expecting to actually find something though, but who knows.

Apart from that, I'd just fast forward.

ETA: For the record, Amy would have objected to Grease leaving with no one standing guard, and Grease would have gone to the children only after she was safely back if it were up to her.
Jack VII
It's not a big deal.







Assuming Lobo doesn't have y'all returning from your trip and finding Jack and Overkill with their faces eaten off by devil rats. wink.gif
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ Apr 30 2014, 10:16 AM) *
Amy will pick up some LiquidSoyMeal™ for everyone on her way back. After that I'm quite okay with fastforwarding with some extra sleep/small talk.

One thing she might do is look up what she can find on the matrix regarding human sacrifices during the full moon, and ask Grease to help. Not really expecting to actually find something though, but who knows.

Apart from that, I'd just fast forward.

ETA: For the record, Amy would have objected to Grease leaving with no one standing guard, and Grease would have gone to the children only after she was safely back if it were up to her.


Okey dokey smile.gif

Grease, if you have a moment, you might want to update your post about Amy's concern, and then either:

a) delay your trip until she gets back to the house

or

b) since you are feeling particularly grumpy, you might ignore her and go anyway.

Let's look at Amy's Matrix Search:
Default Computer to Intuition -1
4d6.hits(5)=2

Giving them the benefit of the doubt, and waiting until Grease feels better, here is his roll:
Default Computer to Intuition -1
2d6.hits(5)=0

So your search turns up some odd websites, including several porn ones, but no substantive information.



Lobo0705
QUOTE (Jack VII @ Apr 30 2014, 10:22 AM) *
Assuming Lobo doesn't have y'all returning from your trip and finding Jack and Overkill with their faces eaten off by devil rats. wink.gif


Aw man... well I can't have that happen now that you said it... frown.gif


Grease and Amy - you just let me know if you want to put up the IC that jumps us to 1:00 or if you want me to do so.

Either way I'm fine.
Chrome Head
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Apr 30 2014, 11:30 AM) *
So your search turns up some odd websites, including several porn ones, but no substantive information.

Ha I expected as much. But what else was she gonna do? smile.gif
DrZaius
Grease would just go; he's got his drones up and a bad attitude, nobody attacked in the dark of night, he thinks they're safe. If Amy wants to post IC reprimanding him that'd be fine, he'd probably brush it off.

I am ok FFW'ing to 1 PM, if everyone else is cool.

-DrZ
Jack VII
QUOTE (DrZaius @ Apr 30 2014, 10:11 AM) *
Grease would just go; he's got his drones up and a bad attitude, nobody attacked in the dark of night, he thinks they're safe. If Amy wants to post IC reprimanding him that'd be fine, he'd probably brush it off.

I agree with this smile.gif Also, there's no real way that Jack and Overkill would ever know (assuming their faces are still in place).
Lobo0705
Ok - then we'll wait on Chrome to post his IC chastisement of Grease smile.gif as well as her ill-fated Matrix search.

Nothing bad will happen before one o'clock and so the end of the post can be Jack and Overkill waking up, at which point you can RP, or do whatever you want prior to the meeting with Chapel.
Always Overkill
Was away most of the day, figured me and Jack's unconsciousness left little to be done. Will be ready to move on when necessary.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Always Overkill @ Apr 30 2014, 07:00 PM) *
Was away most of the day, figured me and Jack's unconsciousness left little to be done. Will be ready to move on when necessary.


No worries - at this point everyone is awake and some planning needs to be done. Overkill will be stuck at the house for another 4 hours - but can certainly talk and plan during that time.
DrZaius
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Apr 30 2014, 06:04 PM) *
No worries - at this point everyone is awake and some planning needs to be done. Overkill will be stuck at the house for another 4 hours - but can certainly talk and plan during that time.


Can I try to make a few more repair checks as well?

DrZ
Lobo0705
Yes you can - you can only repair one more box of damage

5d6.hits(5)=2

Which you did - you could have done that during the morning.

So at this point the drone has 4 boxes of Structural Damage that you can't repair without a shop.

(and we have to add 50 nuyen.gif more to your repair bill for the Rotodrone)

Did you want to try and fix Rhex as well?
Always Overkill
Can Overkill transfer the video safely to the Burner for Ramirez?
DrZaius
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ Apr 30 2014, 09:10 PM) *
Yes you can - you can only repair one more box of damage

5d6.hits(5)=2

Which you did - you could have done that during the morning.

So at this point the drone has 4 boxes of Structural Damage that you can't repair without a shop.

(and we have to add 50 nuyen.gif more to your repair bill for the Rotodrone)

Did you want to try and fix Rhex as well?


Did we already pull the AK out of RHex? If so, I'll probably wait to fix him until we get paid. It will be cheaper to repair him than to buy a new one, right? It seems like going forward, Rotodrones make sense for engagements outside, and dobermans and others make sense when we need to go inside someplace.

-DrZ
Jack VII
QUOTE (Always Overkill @ May 1 2014, 07:41 AM) *
Can Overkill transfer the video safely to the Burner for Ramirez?

I was thinking you could connect the two via cable and do a transfer. Seems like it would leave fewer fingerprints than doing it wirelessly.
Lobo0705
@Overkill,

Yes - that isn't a problem - as Jack says, it doesn't even have to be one over wireless.

@Grease,

Yes, you've pulled it out, but haven't retrofitted it so that it can be used by one of you guys.

Yes, it is cheaper to fix than to buy a new one - especially if it is non-structural damage.
DrZaius
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ May 1 2014, 09:04 AM) *
@Overkill,

Yes - that isn't a problem - as Jack says, it doesn't even have to be one over wireless.

@Grease,

Yes, you've pulled it out, but haven't retrofitted it so that it can be used by one of you guys.

Yes, it is cheaper to fix than to buy a new one - especially if it is non-structural damage.


Do I have an idea of what the breakdown is of structural vs. non structural damage?

Thanks,
-DrZ
Lobo0705
In general, look at the first page of the OOC thread in my first post.

Rhex specifically has 8 boxes of non-structural damage.

The rotodrone has 4 boxes of structural damage
DrZaius
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ May 1 2014, 09:41 AM) *
In general, look at the first page of the OOC thread in my first post.

Rhex specifically has 8 boxes of non-structural damage.

The rotodrone has 4 boxes of structural damage


Ok: So "Non-Structural Damage of 7 or more boxes must be done with a shop, or suffer a -4 dice pool penalty." + "To repair something with 7 or more boxes of damage, every 3 hits repairs 1 box.", vs. my current Dice Pool (Logic 3 + Automotive Mechanic 3) = 2 dice to get 3 hits.

So without a shop (which ain't in the cards anytime soon) RHex is down for the count. However, I would say that's pretty reasonable; Rating 3 skill is basically a hobbyist in SR5, and without a dedicated shop with all the tools that come with it, doing major repairs on a vehicle seems like it would be nigh impossible. RHex got drilled right between the sensors, I am not upset that I am not able to bring him back to fighting form with a wrench and pliers while holed up in some random basement in the warrens cyber.gif

The only other thing I could think of would be to borrow a shop from a contact (using whatever "favor" rules there are for contacts); but I don't really have a mechanic contact (outside of the catch-all Chapel, who probably knows someone).

What I am learning is that I should have gotten a shop in chargen, not spent the extra nuyen.gif on a "special work area". If wishes were fishes, as they say.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (DrZaius @ May 1 2014, 10:04 AM) *
Ok: So "Non-Structural Damage of 7 or more boxes must be done with a shop, or suffer a -4 dice pool penalty." + "To repair something with 7 or more boxes of damage, every 3 hits repairs 1 box.", vs. my current Dice Pool (Logic 3 + Automotive Mechanic 3) = 2 dice to get 3 hits.

So without a shop (which ain't in the cards anytime soon) RHex is down for the count. However, I would say that's pretty reasonable; Rating 3 skill is basically a hobbyist in SR5, and without a dedicated shop with all the tools that come with it, doing major repairs on a vehicle seems like it would be nigh impossible. RHex got drilled right between the sensors, I am not upset that I am not able to bring him back to fighting form with a wrench and pliers while holed up in some random basement in the warrens cyber.gif

The only other thing I could think of would be to borrow a shop from a contact (using whatever "favor" rules there are for contacts); but I don't really have a mechanic contact (outside of the catch-all Chapel, who probably knows someone).

What I am learning is that I should have gotten a shop in chargen, not spent the extra nuyen.gif on a "special work area". If wishes were fishes, as they say.


Yes - the work area is a little bit of a waste given that your skill+attribute isn't high enough that you are going to really benefit from the +2 limit.

On the upside, it only cost you 1,000, and a shop would have cost you 5,000 - so you would have had to come up with another 4,000 more to pay for the shop.

Also, it is an extended test, so you could technically roll 2 dice, then roll again and roll 1 die. Then wait 8 hours, roll 2 dice, then roll 1 die, then wait 8 hours, etc, etc.

However, as you say, it is very difficult to do given your skill+attribute and the amount of damage done to Rhex.
DrZaius
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ May 1 2014, 10:22 AM) *
Yes - the work area is a little bit of a waste given that your skill+attribute isn't high enough that you are going to really benefit from the +2 limit.

On the upside, it only cost you 1,000, and a shop would have cost you 5,000 - so you would have had to come up with another 4,000 more to pay for the shop.

Also, it is an extended test, so you could technically roll 2 dice, then roll again and roll 1 die. Then wait 8 hours, roll 2 dice, then roll 1 die, then wait 8 hours, etc, etc.

However, as you say, it is very difficult to do given your skill+attribute and the amount of damage done to Rhex.


Plus I could always use my edge. It seems like that would be a good activity to use my edge on once we're in between runs, and living high off our payout. Can you critical glitch when you're pushing the limit?
-DrZ
Jack VII
QUOTE (DrZaius @ May 1 2014, 10:25 AM) *
Plus I could always use my edge. It seems like that would be a good activity to use my edge on once we're in between runs, and living high off our payout. Can you critical glitch when you're pushing the limit?
-DrZ

Yeah, you still can. Eliminating a Glitch/Downgrading a Critical Glitch is a separate use of Edge and you can't use two points of Edge on the same dice roll.

P.S. I am uploading a JPEG called Jack's plan to the Dropbox. This would be an ARO mark-up of the video still he captured earlier.
Always Overkill
IC post upcoming, just got to run to the doctor's real quick to pick up a script.
Jack VII
I edited my post and added a suggestion from Jack to continue the conversation (if necessary) in the car.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Jack VII @ May 1 2014, 12:53 PM) *
I edited my post and added a suggestion from Jack to continue the conversation (if necessary) in the car.


Do you want me to put up a post with you arriving at the chip house - or do you still have more to discuss?

Either way is fine with me smile.gif
Jack VII
I hope we're not arriving anywhere close to the chip-house... the drone can fly, right? wink.gif

I think the main question at this point is whether to contact Ramirez (which will probably inform our ammunition choice) and finalize a plan of attack, but I think that can happen after we visit with Chapel and perform recon at the Arsenal.
Chrome Head
Maybe Grease wants to add something, if so just post a quick transition to inside one of your cars and then continue the conversation there.
Always Overkill
@Lobo: On the video of Stinger going to the chiphouse, what time of day does he arrive, and do we know how long he stays?
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Jack VII @ May 1 2014, 01:02 PM) *
I hope we're not arriving anywhere close to the chip-house... the drone can fly, right? wink.gif

I think the main question at this point is whether to contact Ramirez (which will probably inform our ammunition choice) and finalize a plan of attack, but I think that can happen after we visit with Chapel and perform recon at the Arsenal.


I wasn't sure what your plan was since you said you would be "dropping the Fly Spy off at the chip house" technically you don't have to go anywhere near the chip house, Grease can pilot the drone from here or in his car on the way to the meeting with Chapel if he wants to smile.gif

I'll wait to post anything till someone asks smile.gif

Lobo0705
QUOTE (Always Overkill @ May 1 2014, 01:09 PM) *
@Lobo: On the video of Stinger going to the chiphouse, what time of day does he arrive, and do we know how long he stays?


The video had him arriving at 10:00 PM. He didn't transfer the entire file, so it only showed a couple of minutes of footage.
Jack VII
Sorry, "dropping off" wasn't meant literally. If Grease wanted to pilot it himself, I just figured he would want to get close to lower noise penalties. I'm good for waiting for DrZ to post.

Also, I just read a post on the SRT Boards and I guess Storm Front brought Atzlan back to Denver. They apparently took control of part of the Pueblo Sector.
Always Overkill
That's pretty good proximity to the time of Truck's ritual, if we get lucky, maybe we will get a shot at both.
DrZaius
Y'all are going to regret this! I bet he is a vampire. He could be wearing sunscreen or something!

-DrZ

ETA: I don't have anything else; I'm cool moving the scene forward.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (DrZaius @ May 1 2014, 12:23 PM) *
Y'all are going to regret this! I bet he is a vampire. He could be wearing sunscreen or something!

-DrZ

ETA: I don't have anything else; I'm cool moving the scene forward.


Ok - just decide:

1) how are you getting the drone there (i.e. flying it from here, or whatever)
2) Are all 3 of you going to the meet with Chapel (Overkill will be staying back at the house)
3) IC Grease has to ask Overkill to fix the AK from Rhex

Then let me know what if anything I have to post, or you guys can take care of it - I think the first time I will actually have to post will be to describe the chiphouse when the drone gets there or posting what Chapel has to say.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Jack VII @ May 1 2014, 12:12 PM) *
Also, I just read a post on the SRT Boards and I guess Storm Front brought Atzlan back to Denver. They apparently took control of part of the Pueblo Sector.


I don't actually own Stormfront, but I read a little part of it after you mentioned this, and LOTS of stuff has changed. I'm going to leave it alone for now, once the mission is over (and assuming all of you are interested in playing another one) I can have an update to our Dropbox folder with the changes.
Chrome Head
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ May 1 2014, 01:32 PM) *
2) Are all 3 of you going to the meet with Chapel (Overkill will be staying back at the house)


2) Why not? Might as well.
Jack VII
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ May 1 2014, 12:37 PM) *
2) Why not? Might as well.

Seriously, safety in numbers (sorry Overkill!)
Jack VII
QUOTE (Lobo0705 @ May 1 2014, 12:34 PM) *
I don't actually own Stormfront, but I read a little part of it after you mentioned this, and LOTS of stuff has changed. I'm going to leave it alone for now, once the mission is over (and assuming all of you are interested in playing another one) I can have an update to our Dropbox folder with the changes.

Yeah, there was supposedly a whole Civil War type deal in Denver. I feel like we might have to retcon a bunch of stuff (background and flavor mostly) if we were to adopt the changes, but it would be interesting to look them over. Maybe adopt piecemeal.

About 3): I think Overkill was planning on addressing the AK issue regardless, since he bought all of those accessories for an assault rifle and it is the only one available.
DrZaius
QUOTE (Jack VII @ May 1 2014, 12:54 PM) *
About 3): I think Overkill was planning on addressing the AK issue regardless, since he bought all of those accessories for an assault rifle and it is the only one available.


Well, I tasked him with it anyways! I'm not sure if we ever actually discussed borrowing it IC. I don't really care, outside of the posterity of going back to read the adventure afterwards..

-DrZ
Chrome Head
Just so we're clear, when Grease asks Amy to send a spirit to "check it out", you mean the chiphead house, not the site with the crosses, correct?
Chrome Head
First time double post! Apologies.
DrZaius
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ May 1 2014, 03:26 PM) *
Just so we're clear, when Grease asks Amy to send a spirit to "check it out", you mean the chiphead house, not the site with the crosses, correct?


I did.
-DrZ
Jack VII
How is the spirit going to find the house? Can't really read street signs in the astral. Might want to wait to send the drone so that the spirit can at least follow it to the target.
Chrome Head
The spirit can conceal himself somewhere where it's almost impossible to tell that he's there, and manifest to see the physical and find its way. A spirit is in no way limited like a projecting mage is.

ETA: Plus you can still do the basic: count the number of cross streets, it'll be 5 right turning streets down, on the NE corner. That kind of thing.
Jack VII
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ May 1 2014, 03:31 PM) *
The spirit can conceal himself somewhere where it's almost impossible to tell that he's there, and manifest to see the physical and find its way. A spirit is in no way limited like a projecting mage is.

I don't remember if we ever came to a conclusion on this. The book specifically states that Astral Perception is the only sense a spirit has, even when materialized (which, don't get me wrong, is stupid as Hell considering half of the powers listed for a Spirit of Beast are based on physical perception).
Chrome Head
QUOTE (Jack VII @ May 1 2014, 05:37 PM) *
I don't remember if we ever came to a conclusion on this. The book specifically states that Astral Perception is the only sense a spirit has, even when materialized (which, don't get me wrong, is stupid as Hell considering half of the powers listed for a Spirit of Beast are based on physical perception).

I don't understand what you mean. The Materialization power allows the spirits to interact with the physical world. Interacting definitely includes perception.
Jack VII
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ May 1 2014, 03:45 PM) *
I don't understand what you mean. The Materialization power allows the spirits to interact with the physical world. Interacting definitely includes perception.

QUOTE (BBB p.301 @ Spirit Basics)
When materialized, the spirit uses astral perception (its only perception) to perceive the physical world.

Emphasis added. Mind you, it makes no sense in the context of Spirits of Beasts and, to a lesser extent, Spirits of Man or to the fact that every single spirit has Perception as a listed skill. Then again, I've always felt that Assensing should strictly be used for reading auras, signatures, and performing astral tracking and Perception should be used for other purposes with Astral Perception, like spotting people trying to hide, or whatever.
Lobo0705
QUOTE (Chrome Head @ May 1 2014, 04:45 PM) *
I don't understand what you mean. The Materialization power allows the spirits to interact with the physical world. Interacting definitely includes perception.


Jack is referring to page 301:

"When materialized, the spirit uses astral
perception (its only perception) to perceive the physical
world."

Which is not vague at all - pretty clear cut. EXCEPT that on page 303, Spirits of Beasts can get Lowlight vision as a power, which doesn't make sense if they only way they see is with Astral Perception.

Let me think on it a bit - although I am leaning towards saying that they have normal vision when the are materialized, and simply act like a dual natured creature.
Jack VII
Beasts have three enhanced sensory powers (it's my spirit specialization in the Africa game, so I have poured over this for a while, LOL). Man has two. They all have Perception as a skill, which would be super dumb if they can't use it. I don't know what they were thinking to be honest. I guess Beasts and Man could have special powers that grant them normal perception with enhanced ability, but then the Perception skill makes little sense for the four elemental spirits.

The Spirits were not put together all that well. Spirits of Beast also get Noxious Breath as an Optional Power, but don't have the Exotic Weapon Proficiency to go along with it (it's also not a very good power, the Toxin should probably be set to Fx2, IMO).
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