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Slacker
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 28 2013, 03:03 PM) *
There is no sign of a smartlink, but there is an image link for AR. Dubstep cannot tell if it's linking to contact lenses or to cybereyes.

To find the slaved link, ideally give me a Computer + Track, or alternatively an EW + Scan.

Can I use Edit to force a plethora of hardcore troll porn vid feeds onto his imagelink (and listening capabilities he has if possible) system? Basically trying to blind him or at least give him some penalties due to distraction. If Edit will work, I got 4 hits on my roll.

If I can't do that, I will go ahead send a quick message to Cat and Dante telling them the leader doesn't seem to have smartlink for me to mess with, but I'm following a lead. Then I'll roll Computer + Track to try finding out what his commlink is slaved to. I got 4 hits again.
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 28 2013, 11:01 AM) *
Yeah, when I wrote that up I totally forgot that you are only allowed one unbound at the time and thought she could summon up to a maximum of her charisma. We fudged it to assume she had three on call, but I like to think of it as Snake bending the rules of magic for her initiation. Plus, what happens in the CZ, stays in the CZ!



yeah wasnt trying to burn you just went oh hrm wonder if that changed in 4a?
Notsoevildm
QUOTE (Slacker @ Mar 28 2013, 09:28 PM) *
Can I use Edit to force a plethora of hardcore troll porn vid feeds onto his imagelink (and listening capabilities he has if possible) system? Basically trying to blind him or at least give him some penalties due to distraction. If Edit will work, I got 4 hits on my roll.

If I can't do that, I will go ahead send a quick message to Cat and Dante telling them the leader doesn't seem to have smartlink for me to mess with, but I'm following a lead. Then I'll roll Computer + Track to try finding out what his commlink is slaved to. I got 4 hits again.
Spoof would be more appropriate but I'll let it go as you are using the old troll porn trick, a tactic I have successfully used in the past, against me.

Does Dubstep actually have some troll porn on his commlink or is he just spamming whatever he can access from the matrix. I am willing to accept some dire boy band music videos or even a RickRoll as an alternative.

The distraction will kick in just around the time Cat gets smacked across the room and last until he can take a simple action to override it. You can send a message to the others at any time as a free action.

The 4 hits on the Trace will be enough to ping up Skinny's link. The leader's link is slaved to that link. Note that the Analyze program in the leader's node locks onto you at about the same time as you detect Skinny's link.
Notsoevildm
QUOTE (karhig @ Mar 28 2013, 09:20 PM) *
So how does 2xDodge work when you're defaulting because you bet 100% on gymnastic dodge? Still 2 dice? I thought so! Drek frown.gif
You could always try to block instead (Reaction + Unarmed combat) or add Edge to bolster those 2 dice.
Machine Ghost
QUOTE (Slacker @ Mar 28 2013, 12:40 PM) *
@Virtual Scream/ notsoevildm
I take it there is no sign of either smartlink or any cyberware on the leader's commlink? Does he have anything like an imagelink that allows him to see AR data on contacts/glasses?

What would I need to do in order to find the device this commlink is slaved too?
By RAW, you would not even by on (have hacked) the slaved commlink.
QUOTE (UW55 Slaving)
One node, the slave, may be linked to another node, the master. In this setup, the master is given full admin access to the slave. When slaving a node to a master, the slaved node does not accept any Matrix connections from any other node but the master and instantly forwards any connection attempts to the master. Hackers have three options when faced with a slaved node.
First, they can hack in directly to the slave with an additional threshold modifier of +2, though this requires a physical (wired) connection to the device. Second, they can hack the master node (thus gaining access to the slaved node—and any other slaves—as well), though this node is usually more secure. Third, they can spoof the access ID of the master node and then spoof commands to the slave.
You can locate the slaved node, because it still has it's own transmitter, but any (wireless) access attempt just redirects to the master. If you don't notice that it is slaved, the exploit/hack should actually be against the master node. I think analyze node would tell you that it was slaved before doing the hack.
phlapjack77
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 29 2013, 03:52 AM) *
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house

@phlapjack: Dante is still holding his action. He won't be able to stop Chunky from completing his swing, but Cat has at least ensured that no-one is looking at him right NOW.

Any chance I could cinematically spend a point of Edge and block for Cat? Or maybe spend a point of Edge to "go first", and aggressively block with my cyberhand that just so happens to be set to "stun"? biggrin.gif
karhig
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 28 2013, 10:43 PM) *
You could always try to block instead (Reaction + Unarmed combat) or add Edge to bolster those 2 dice.
Cat will go for ducking her head down and blocking with her arms for a full parry attempt, giving up her next action. I get the impression Edge refreshes at a deathly slow rate, so I'm not very keen to spend it on Chunky's back hand slap. I'm sure he's putting his weight into it and I'm sure he's 'experienced' (but hopefully not specialised) in backhanding women, but I think I'll save the edge dice for when she's getting shot smile.gif

Full parry defence against Chunky's backhand. (5d6.hits(5) -> [5,2,2,1,4] = 1)

Far from the best dice roll ever, but at least I got something, right?! *nervous look* I'm actually hoping she gets knocked off the chair by the force of it so that she can open up a gap between her and Dante, giving him more freedom of movement, as well as giving her access to gymnastic dodge. She has her leather jacket on right now for 2/2 armour. Are you posting the IC effects?

QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 29 2013, 03:58 AM) *
Any chance I could cinematically spend a point of Edge and block for Cat? Or maybe spend a point of Edge to "go first", and aggressively block with my cyberhand that just so happens to be set to "stun"? biggrin.gif
Don't worry about it, I expected her to take a hit for her insolence. She's very good with make up and has several pairs of dark sun glasses, you'll hardly notice the bruise. I'm just hoping he doesn't break anything!
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Mar 28 2013, 11:57 PM) *
By RAW, you would not even by on (have hacked) the slaved commlink.
You can locate the slaved node, because it still has it's own transmitter, but any (wireless) access attempt just redirects to the master. If you don't notice that it is slaved, the exploit/hack should actually be against the master node. I think analyze node would tell you that it was slaved before doing the hack.
I knew I got it wrong. Seems the gangers aren't so matrix savvy after all. Dubstep is still in the leader's link, but it is not slaved to Skinny's. Instead, Skinny has disabled the local admin and set up a remote admin account that is subscribed to the leader's link. That is what Dubstep traced. I'll edit the IC accordingly.

In further news, Cat is about to get smacked by Chunky. Need a Body + Ballistic armor test against 5 stun damage.
karhig
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 29 2013, 10:14 AM) *
In further news, Cat is about to get smacked by Chunky. Need a Body + Ballistic armor test against 5 stun damage.
I assume you mean impact, unless he shot his hand at me? Either way, the dice are the same:
Body(2) + Impact(2) resistance against Chunky's backhand slap. (4d6.hits(5) -> [6,5,4,6] = 3) Leather jackets are awesome smile.gif
phlapjack77
QUOTE (karhig @ Mar 29 2013, 03:52 PM) *
Don't worry about it, I expected her to take a hit for her insolence. She's very good with make up and has several pairs of dark sun glasses, you'll hardly notice the bruise. I'm just hoping he doesn't break anything!

Cool. It's probably more "in character" for Dante not to try to stop the slap anyway. He's not a bad guy, but he's not exactly a "nice" guy either. My normal thought process had me posting before I had a chance to think about how this character would actually react smile.gif

5S?!? Ouch! Maybe Dubstep has a good First Aid skill... great roll! 2S is much better
karhig
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 29 2013, 10:28 AM) *
5S?!? Ouch! Maybe Dubstep has a good First Aid skill... great roll! 2S is much better
Yep, she's buying from that store again! biggrin.gif
ChromeZephyr
@NSEDM: How often do I need to roll Con checks? And can I spend some karma midstream?
Notsoevildm
QUOTE (ChromeZephyr @ Mar 29 2013, 05:43 PM) *
@NSEDM: How often do I need to roll Con checks? And can I spend some karma midstream?
You are good at least until someone notices the ex-Lone Star riot control drone.

For karma spend, I'm fine if your are just upping a skill by a point. Initiating, learning spells or a new skill, I'd prefer to see at least an IC post. However, if you are like 'Oh crap I forgot to points in dodge or perception' - the two I regularly overlook myself, then feel free to add a point or two.
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house
Cat has managed to soak Chunky's backhander but something seems wrong with him, as in popped too many pills wrong. Cat has used up her action for turn 2 by blocking

Dubstep has distracted Leader but attracted the attention of the attack program on Leader's link and has tipped Skinny/Xbox off to his presence in the link. Dubstep can perform a matrix action (or two) before the gangers / IC get to go.

Dante is still holding his action from the previous turn and his action phase this turn will also come up before the gangers.

Also, while I have been writing up the action, feel free to embellish / expand on what's happening from your PCs perspective.

ChromeZephyr
Nothing specific in mind for karma spending, just realized I hadn't asked that question yet. As for Initiation, he hasn't done anything yet to justify doing it. Maybe after this bit with the gangers, though, I've got the Karma to do it I just realized. We'll see.

IC post in progress now.
phlapjack77
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house

Dante'll use the great distractions to "lay hands" on Chunky and hit him with an electrical attack courtesy of his cyberware magnetic system. It's a touch melee attack, I'm not sure if there are modifiers for Chunky being distracted/blinded? Hoping to have surprise on his side so that he drops Chunky somewhat quietly*, then has the element of surprise to shoot the other Jasons**

*more quietly than gunfire, anyway
**gangers
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 30 2013, 03:06 AM) *
Dante'll use the great distractions to "lay hands" on Chunky and hit him with an electrical attack courtesy of his cyberware magnetic system. It's a touch melee attack, I'm not sure if there are modifiers for Chunky being distracted/blinded? Hoping to have surprise on his side so that he drops Chunky somewhat quietly*, then has the element of surprise to shoot the other Jasons**
Chunky seems more interested in beating down on Cat so doesn't get to dodge the attack. Make the attack roll! In fact, make two rolls (held action and action from second round) just in case the first doesn't take him down.
phlapjack77
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 30 2013, 07:03 PM) *
@Virtual Scream/Noodle house
Chunky seems more interested in beating down on Cat so doesn't get to dodge the attack. Make the attack roll! In fact, make two rolls (held action and action from second round) just in case the first doesn't take him down.

First attack: Agi(6) + Unarmed(1) + touch-attack(2) + off-hand(-2): 2 hits
Damage: 6S(e) + 2 hits

If Chunky doesn't go down and start spasming from the electrical damage, Dante'll follow it up with a kick to the groin (just for show, no called shot smile.gif)
Second attack: Agi(6) + Unarmed(1): 2 hits
Damage: 3S + 2 hits

If Chunky DOES go down from the shock, Dante'll use the action from the second round to fire on the guy with the Uzi (the leader? Not the Skinny guy)
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Are we missing anything for EPLChitown? Cant wait to see what happens next. (and hope gemeaux doesnt see through my trid phantasm as im allergic to sniper rounds)
Aria
QUOTE (onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk @ Mar 31 2013, 04:18 PM) *
Are we missing anything for EPLChitown? Cant wait to see what happens next. (and hope gemeaux doesnt see through my trid phantasm as im allergic to sniper rounds)

You're just waiting for me, sorry, had family stuff over the holiday. Will get you and tribes an IC mid week!
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
Lol no worries im just trying to figure out how im going to say hi to gem without getting shot biggrin.gif. Also, Happy Easter everyone!
Slacker
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Mar 28 2013, 04:37 PM) *
Spoof would be more appropriate but I'll let it go as you are using the old troll porn trick, a tactic I have successfully used in the past, against me.

Does Dubstep actually have some troll porn on his commlink or is he just spamming whatever he can access from the matrix. I am willing to accept some dire boy band music videos or even a RickRoll as an alternative.

The distraction will kick in just around the time Cat gets smacked across the room and last until he can take a simple action to override it. You can send a message to the others at any time as a free action.

The 4 hits on the Trace will be enough to ping up Skinny's link. The leader's link is slaved to that link. Note that the Analyze program in the leader's node locks onto you at about the same time as you detect Skinny's link.

Sorry for the delay.

Of course Dubstep has some troll porn on his commlink. He came across it late one night and found it so disturbing that the had to save a copy for instances just like this. He has both Get Trolled 4: Dwarfgasm and Get Trolled 6: Trans-cendance starring Truck Angel (a troll version of modern day Buck Angel)!

Lol. I guess technically I don't have that written down anywhere. So whatever you say Dubstep threw up is fine.

After splashing that up on the leader's image link, I'll ignore the attack program for now as I try to hack on the fly to get onto Skinny's link. This time I'm going for Admin access.
Roll 1: 5 hits
Roll 2: 7 hits
Roll 3: 6 hits

Not sure how many of those rolls I need, but I certainly hope it doesn't take more than that. I imagine the Attack program will be doing something during that time, but do keep in mind that I have 5 initiative passes. smile.gif
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream/Noodle House/Dante
QUOTE (phlapjack77 @ Mar 30 2013, 05:19 PM) *
First attack: Agi(6) + Unarmed(1) + touch-attack(2) + off-hand(-2): 2 hits
Damage: 6S(e) + 2 hits

If Chunky doesn't go down and start spasming from the electrical damage, Dante'll follow it up with a kick to the groin (just for show, no called shot smile.gif)
Second attack: Agi(6) + Unarmed(1): 2 hits
Damage: 3S + 2 hits

If Chunky DOES go down from the shock, Dante'll use the action from the second round to fire on the guy with the Uzi (the leader? Not the Skinny guy)
First attack does take Chunky down, but he's not out. He is hurt and will be lying on the ground twitching for a couple of rounds. While a swift kick to the groin will likely finish him off, you can also leave him lying there twitching and shoot the leader.
phlapjack77
Ok, if Chunky is twitching on the floor, Dante'll put one into the leader and one into Skinny.

First shot, at Leader
14d6.hits(5) = 2 hits wow poor rolling
Damage: 6P + 2(BF) + 2 4 hits, -2 AP
*edit* using Edge to re-roll misses: 12d6.hits(5) = 2 hits
wow wow wow - this guy is living a very charmed life! smile.gif 26d6, only 4 hits...

Second shot, at Skinny
12d6.hits(5) = 5 hits more like it
Damage: 6P + 2(BF) + 5 hits, -2 AP

1 Edge used, 2 remaining
phlapjack77
Hope everyone had a great holiday!

Also, I'm going on vacation starting April 3, won't be back until April 15. Posting'll be sporadic for me during that time, but I'll try to post up a little when I can.
Aria
Sorry folks waiting on me...not sure I'll get any IC up before the end of the week now frown.gif will do my best but no promises!
Slacker
@Virtual Scream: notsoevildm
QUOTE (Slacker @ Apr 1 2013, 09:50 AM) *
Sorry for the delay.

Of course Dubstep has some troll porn on his commlink. He came across it late one night and found it so disturbing that the had to save a copy for instances just like this. He has both Get Trolled 4: Dwarfgasm and Get Trolled 6: Trans-cendance starring Truck Angel (a troll version of modern day Buck Angel)!

Lol. I guess technically I don't have that written down anywhere. So whatever you say Dubstep threw up is fine.

After splashing that up on the leader's image link, I'll ignore the attack program for now as I try to hack on the fly to get onto Skinny's link. This time I'm going for Admin access.
Roll 1: 5 hits
Roll 2: 7 hits
Roll 3: 6 hits

Not sure how many of those rolls I need, but I certainly hope it doesn't take more than that. I imagine the Attack program will be doing something during that time, but do keep in mind that I have 5 initiative passes. smile.gif


Just wanted to make sure you noticed this post from me a couple days ago. How much of that did I get done before the Leader decided to stand up and start shooting us?
karhig
QUOTE (Slacker @ Apr 3 2013, 02:59 PM) *
@Virtual Scream: notsoevildm


Just wanted to make sure you noticed this post from me a couple days ago. How much of that did I get done before the Leader decided to stand up and start shooting us?


I'm a bit confused about the IP order. I've no idea which combat round we're on or which IP of that round. I also don't know when Cat will be able to act again (probably after combat has ended). Can we get an Aria style summary of what's happened in the combat so far and when? Pretty please?
Slacker
QUOTE (karhig @ Apr 3 2013, 09:11 AM) *
I'm a bit confused about the IP order. I've no idea which combat round we're on or which IP of that round. I also don't know when Cat will be able to act again (probably after combat has ended). Can we get an Aria style summary of what's happened in the combat so far and when? Pretty please?

That would be nice. Also, could Cat knock Dubstep under the table knowing that he's currently in VR?
karhig
QUOTE (Slacker @ Apr 3 2013, 03:13 PM) *
That would be nice. Also, could Cat knock Dubstep under the table knowing that he's currently in VR?
She could if she has an action, but I think Full Parry consumed the next action, so she's can only dodge frown.gif
Aria
@E:Tribes

Pre-genned Rolls
[ Spoiler ]

Initiative:
Tweak Ini 16 (3IPs) Sprogget: Ini 11 (1IPs)/13 (3IPs) Scrapheap: Ini 12 (1IPs) Spring Ini 9 (1IPs) LeFey: Ini 8 (1IPs)

Combat order:
[ Spoiler ]


4.1 LeFey shoots at Harley mage, Scrapheap shoots at roof gunner, rest of you…? Mage hits the mono bike and does 6 damage! No feedback damage to Sprogget, pillion rider on LHS shoots (and misses) Spring. Scrapheap second shot blast at W crotch rocket – missed due to second target, dodge etc… Tweak brakes, puts van in reverse and accelerates like crazy. Spring retreats to the cover of a building to the W of the road. Sprogget commands gunship and logs off Freedom node
4.2 Scrapheap finishes off W crotch rocket, Spring summons a spirit. Sprogget cuts off the Harley but doesn’t force a crash
4.3 Drone shoots at Harley

5.1 LeFey shoots at biker. Spined Drakes in general retreat (whimps!). Spring to command spirit, Tweak ramming junker (?), drone firing at Harley again, Scrapheap blasting junker?
5.2
5.3


Aria
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Mar 26 2013, 08:32 PM) *
If I got the scene layout correct, Monocycle and Harley were westbound across the lanes, with Monocycle to the South. With the swerve to cut off the Harley (4.2) and followup, the monocycle and Harley should now be headed North (again), somewhat behind the (west side) racing bike that Scrapheap took out. Since Sprogget spotted LeO as he was preparing to ram the Harley, I'll say LeO is coming off of the roof of a building on the West side of the road, starting a bit South of the action. About where the Van got to when Tweak did the full reverse.

4.3 Sprogget drive complex action.
5.1 Sprogget drive complex action while reviewing [tactical] situation

Playing with Google Maps "My Places". Took a copy of the Seattle map, and split the content into separate 'layers' maps.
Distrct Boundaries
Barrens Boundaries (currently only Puyallup)
Area Boundaries (currently only Hells Kitchen)
Infrastructure Areas Freedom and Mechanicals homes
PC homes and contacts
Dumpshock 4-1-1 feature points (only a couple for now)
SS2050 Feature points
Facility Sites
Scenes and Encounters zoomed to E:Tribes being ambushed by Spined Drakes

Those maps can be viewed as multiple overlays at the same time, but apparently only if they are saved (bookmarked) in your own "My Places". Nuisance if you just want to use a link to get the view to zoom and scroll around in. experimented with the symbols for the ambush.

I would like to find a better mashup for the mapping, but I have it so that each of those (and more) can be managed separately, then merged back into a single map for viewing. More later.
I think I agree with your assessment of locations nyahnyah.gif

Thanks for looking at the maps…I couldn’t find a way of viewing them together in ‘My Places’, I’m probably missing a tick box somewhere. I tried to play with the GoogleMapsEngineLite over lunch but got a headache trying to make the base google maps data show up so gave up…was hoping it would stop the whole issue with multiple pages on the normal maps but may have another go later…
QUOTE (Dakka Fiend @ Mar 26 2013, 09:33 PM) *
@E:Tribes, Aria

Forgot I still haven't posted what Tweak's doing for 4.2 and 4.3. Think he can ram someone in 5.1 if he keeps accelerating in 4.2 and 4.3?
Not sure there’s anyone left unless you want to target the rust bucket? That’s moving slowly enough that you could ram it if you want! It’s significantly more armoured than the last Americar you mashed though…then again it has a smoking shotgun hole in it so go for it if you want!
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Mar 27 2013, 12:08 AM) *
Notes on attacks by LeO

Looks like LeO can only fire a single burst, even though a long burst is only a simple action with the mods used. Unless I missed something for drone controlled weapons.
No, complex actions even for single shots! The downside to gunnery unless jumped in which I believe removes that particular restriction.
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Mar 27 2013, 12:08 AM) *
SR4A150 ranged combat summary, about autofire not counting when comparing modified DV to modified armor **seems** to be referring (only) to deciding whether physical damage converts to stun or not. Those modifiers should still apply to deciding if an attack on an armored vechicle fails or not. If not, then need some serious armor penetration to get through. Or maybe electrical? Is that what the mage used?

IC said the mage is using the armoured cowl for protection. Is he still a valid / visible target? Choices seem to be: shoot at the mage directly; shoot at the mage using blind fire; shoot at the Harley; Shoot at both using Full-auto.
IC said the Harley is headed north. LeO is coming in from the South. Is that cowl really protection?
Elemental attack (-1/2 AP!) ork.gif

Bikes are an odd case, checking rules you can either shoot biker or bike…I assume biker in this case, he’ll get some cover bonus but that’s it!
ChromeZephyr
@Aria: Here's my previous post about what Scrapheap was doing, it got buried two pages back.

QUOTE (ChromeZephyr @ Mar 27 2013, 02:57 PM) *
Okay, just glad I'm not missing something completely obvious. So it's still moving, but slower? ork.gif

Scrapheap's apparently a devotee of Khorne. He's not going to shoot the car again, even he can see that he put that slug right where he should and it just slowed it down. So he'll actually run at the car. The plan with the remaining actions this turn are thusly: Free action to run at car. Simple action to climb car and head for the roof...where the hole in the armor is. Next turn, assuming the car hasn't run his dumb ass over, the plan will be to shoot the people inside the car.


I'd imagine they'll retreat as quickly or quicker than Scrapheap will be able to run, which will just make him madder. If that's the case, switch the 2nd simple action of climbing car to swearing and cursing them as cowards at the top of his lungs. Then wisely getting out of the way of the onrushing van behind him. smile.gif If they're not going quick enough to get away, well...BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

Scrap is definitely going to need a brainbender when he gets back home, he's not a happy puppy right now. ork.gif
Machine Ghost
@Aria, E:Tribes

QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 4 2013, 09:32 AM) *
@E:Tribes
September 1, 2072 22:28 Approx 600m from the Fre∑dom Mall, Puyallup
 
.. snip ..
Sprogget

As you assess the tactical situation that suddenly seems to be going your way the LeO lets out a viciously accurate burst of fire at the retreating Harley and the bastard jinks almost completely out of the way!  Bloody mages and their preternatural senses!  You are satisfied to see the spray of very real blood though as the rounds slip under his flapping armour jacket to strike flesh.  Hunkering in close to his bike he accelerates away far faster than the Harley should be able to go.  Not faster than LeO though you think to yourself…
.. snip ..
Actually a base Harley is faster than LeO, even without mage (or good pilot) boost.  The monocycle is faster than LeO too.
Table SR4A351 Harley-Davidson Scorpion (Chopper) Accel 15/30 Speed 120
AR120 Ford LEBD-1 Accel 5/20 Speed 80
There do not seem to be any 'fast' smaller flying drones, except the unarmed, unarmoured Kull AR120, until you get to the Ares Heimdall AR117, which is really a guided missile.  Ground vehicles are mostly faster.  The Kull looks like a decent base for a patrolling sensor platform though.

LeO can not use the running acceleration either, without penalties on the shooting dice pool.  However, since LeO gets 3 IP, that chopper is not going to get out of range real quick either.  Still in medium range of that Ares Alpha at up to 150 meters with no range modifier, then -2 modifier out to 350 meters.

Range calculation numbers
[ Spoiler ]

Writing the IC, I discovered a 'Canadianism' to counter the Stringer that I did not know.  While checking something, I discovered that deke (dekes, [i]deking[i] is shown as a Canadian term / slang.

Here is a link to someone else's Seattle Shadowrun map.  Nice, but not helpful if want to add run specific content.

QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 4 2013, 09:33 AM) *
I think I agree with your assessment of locations nyahnyah.gif

Thanks for looking at the maps…I couldn’t find a way of viewing them together in ‘My Places’, I’m probably missing a tick box somewhere.  I tried to play with the GoogleMapsEngineLite over lunch but got a headache trying to make the base google maps data show up so gave up…was hoping it would stop the whole issue with multiple pages on the normal maps but may have another go later…
.. snip ..
I had a quick look at the capabilities of GoogleMapsEngineLite the other day, but have not actually tried to create a map yet.  Just considering what it would take to export and re-import some of the existing map data.  Unless there is another similar limit (paged maps), that *should* get rid of the presentation issues.  It does look like much better capabilities.  Putting things on 'proper' layers, and being able to turn them on and off and combine them at will makes for much more powerful mapping.

Re 'My Places', do you have the interest and time to walk through how I did it?  Have a look at TeamViewer.  That enables full remote desktop support, and you do not even need to install it.  If you are willing to let me have temporary shared access to your computer, we can find a time walk through things, either me seeing what you are doing, or you watching what I am doing.  That allows 'flipping' things so that that either end of the connection can be shown on both computers.

QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 4 2013, 09:33 AM) *
No, complex actions even for single shots! The downside to gunnery unless jumped in which I believe removes that particular restriction.
The only reference I found for this, is
QUOTE (Gunnery SR4A171)
in almost all cases vehicle weapons require a Complex Action to fire. The Gunnery skill is used for vehicle-mounted weapons.
Then SR4A247 shows drone attack as: Sensor + Gunnery, Pilot + Targeting, or Command + Gunnery, depending on the context.  I found nothing to indicate when that 'almost all' does not apply.

QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 4 2013, 09:33 AM) *
Elemental attack (-1/2 AP!) ork.gif

Bikes are an odd case, checking rules you can either shoot biker or bike…I assume biker in this case, he’ll get some cover bonus but that’s it!
I guess LeO would be better off with some stick-N-Shock :/ but yes, target the biker.

Speaking of which, it *appears* that Mage is driving the bike and doing attacks.  Not driver and rider like the racing bikes.  He has multiple IP?

QUOTE (ChromeZephyr @ Apr 4 2013, 09:59 AM) *
.. snip ..
I'd imagine they'll retreat as quickly or quicker than Scrapheap will be able to run, which will just make him madder.
Maybe not.  Orks get a base running rate of 25 meters per turn SR4A149.  Boost that [with a simple action] using a Running+Strength test.  each hit adds 2 to that 25 meters.
Even the junker probably can get moving faster than that, but it may not get to START out that fast.  No Americar on the SR4 lists (its 'old' tech), but SR4A348 says Mercury Comet replaced the Americar as best selling family car.  The base Comet gets accel 15/30, but that will be reduced to 12/24 just due to the armor.  That could be further reduced from the poor state of repair and the damage already done.  If it is not too far away, Scrapheap might catch it before it picks up speed.  Especially if it was still moving toward him when he started running.  It takes time to get stopped too.
Dakka Fiend
QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 4 2013, 05:32 PM) *
5.1 ... Spring to command spirit, Tweak ramming junker (?) ...


I guess Tweak'll look at the situation and decide the fight's over. Especially as his buddy needs a lift to med bay.

Spring'll command the spirit to take out the guys in the car with the minigun.

And the spirit (after holding its action to wait for Spring's order)? Well, does it fit inside the car? If yes, materialize there and start attacking on next IP. If not, I guess it'll have to materialize next to it and convince the driver and passengers to stop and exit the vehicle. Accident sounds like a plan. wink.gif

Aria
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Apr 5 2013, 12:05 AM) *
@Aria, E:Tribes

Actually a base Harley is faster than LeO, even without mage (or good pilot) boost.  The monocycle is faster than LeO too.
Table SR4A351 Harley-Davidson Scorpion (Chopper) Accel 15/30 Speed 120
AR120 Ford LEBD-1 Accel 5/20 Speed 80
There do not seem to be any 'fast' smaller flying drones, except the unarmed, unarmoured Kull AR120, until you get to the Ares Heimdall AR117, which is really a guided missile.  Ground vehicles are mostly faster.  The Kull looks like a decent base for a patrolling sensor platform though.
Yeah, that's kind of what I meant...you'll be in shooting range for a while yet unless he does something nefarious...what are the chances? ork.gif

QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Apr 5 2013, 12:05 AM) *
Here is a link to someone else's Seattle Shadowrun map.  Nice, but not helpful if want to add run specific content.

I had a quick look at the capabilities of GoogleMapsEngineLite the other day, but have not actually tried to create a map yet.  Just considering what it would take to export and re-import some of the existing map data.  Unless there is another similar limit (paged maps), that *should* get rid of the presentation issues.  It does look like much better capabilities.  Putting things on 'proper' layers, and being able to turn them on and off and combine them at will makes for much more powerful mapping.

Re 'My Places', do you have the interest and time to walk through how I did it?  Have a look at TeamViewer.  That enables full remote desktop support, and you do not even need to install it.  If you are willing to let me have temporary shared access to your computer, we can find a time walk through things, either me seeing what you are doing, or you watching what I am doing.  That allows 'flipping' things so that that either end of the connection can be shown on both computers.

Given that I do most of my RP at work during lunch I think I'd be shot for even considering such a thing nyahnyah.gif. My wife might shoot me for different reasons if I did it at home biggrin.gif
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Apr 5 2013, 12:05 AM) *
The only reference I found for this, is
Then SR4A247 shows drone attack as: Sensor + Gunnery, Pilot + Targeting, or Command + Gunnery, depending on the context.  I found nothing to indicate when that 'almost all' does not apply.

I guess LeO would be better off with some stick-N-Shock :/ but yes, target the biker.

Speaking of which, it *appears* that Mage is driving the bike and doing attacks.  Not driver and rider like the racing bikes.  He has multiple IP?
I think I'd dispute SNS being that useful against a large vehicle like the van, maybe a bike or drone. The orc has 2 IP...he's a Lieutenant after all, couldn't make him too much of a walkover, fat lot of good he's done so far lol.
QUOTE (Machine Ghost @ Apr 5 2013, 12:05 AM) *
Maybe not.  Orks get a base running rate of 25 meters per turn SR4A149.  Boost that [with a simple action] using a Running+Strength test.  each hit adds 2 to that 25 meters.
Even the junker probably can get moving faster than that, but it may not get to START out that fast.  No Americar on the SR4 lists (its 'old' tech), but SR4A348 says Mercury Comet replaced the Americar as best selling family car.  The base Comet gets accel 15/30, but that will be reduced to 12/24 just due to the armor.  That could be further reduced from the poor state of repair and the damage already done.  If it is not too far away, Scrapheap might catch it before it picks up speed.  Especially if it was still moving toward him when he started running.  It takes time to get stopped too.
I'll modify my post now so that you are on the Americar, almost at the same time that a pissed off fire spirit arrives inside it biggrin.gif
QUOTE (Dakka Fiend @ Apr 5 2013, 09:58 AM) *
I guess Tweak'll look at the situation and decide the fight's over. Especially as his buddy needs a lift to med bay.

Spring'll command the spirit to take out the guys in the car with the minigun.

And the spirit (after holding its action to wait for Spring's order)? Well, does it fit inside the car? If yes, materialize there and start attacking on next IP. If not, I guess it'll have to materialize next to it and convince the driver and passengers to stop and exit the vehicle. Accident sounds like a plan. wink.gif

See above...oh, and it was an AK not a minigun! Sprogget was considering the lead hose for his drone but decided against it because of the crippling recoil!
Aria
@E:Tribes:

Revised Combat order:
[ Spoiler ]


4.1 LeFey shoots at Harley mage, Scrapheap shoots at roof gunner, rest of you…? Mage hits the mono bike and does 6 damage! No feedback damage to Sprogget, pillion rider on LHS shoots (and misses) Spring. Scrapheap second shot blast at W crotch rocket – missed due to second target, dodge etc… Tweak brakes, puts van in reverse and accelerates like crazy. Spring retreats to the cover of a building to the W of the road. Sprogget commands gunship and logs off Freedom node
4.2 Scrapheap finishes off W crotch rocket, Spring summons a spirit. Sprogget cuts off the Harley but doesn’t force a crash
4.3 Drone shoots at Harley

5.1 LeFey shoots at biker. Spined Drakes in general retreat (whimps!). Spring orders spirit to manifest inside junker, Tweak pulls up, drone firing at Harley again, Scrapheap jumps on board junker, junker passengers decide being inside is NOT a good place to be…
5.2
5.3


Dakka Fiend
@E:Tribes, Aria

And that IC posts brings the count to 32, which gives me enough Karma to spend 6 on Tweak, upping his Pilot Ground Craft to 3.
Accounting post updated, spent 10 on Spring, 6 on Tweak. Will continue spending on Tweak until they're at 10/10. wink.gif
Aria
I've added a kind of place holder post for E:PL to give you all a chance to post if you want...I'll sort out the combat summary and get back into it all properly after the weekend. There are plenty of feral ghoul targets, the really dangerous ones are inside with Copperhead ork.gif
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream / Noodle house

Surprise round
Cindy warns Dubstep of trouble in the real
Dante activates wired reflexes
Gangers begin to spread out into restaurant
Cat realises bad things are going down

Round 1 phase 1
Dubstep scans for hidden nodes and finds Leader's
Dante deploys pistol and holds action
Gangers move - Chunky to group, Xbox to chinese couple
Cat makes an impression

Round 1 phase 2
Dubstep logs onto Leader's link and snoops around
Dante holds
Chunky smacks Cat
Cat sacrifices 2.1 action to full parry

Round 1 phase 3-5
Dubstep  traces Xbox's link, spams troll porn onto Leader's link, gets attention of IC, leaves node

Round 2 phase 1
Dubstep starts to hack admin account on Xbox's link
Dante uses held action to shock Chunky then shoots Leader and Xbox/
Leader gets back up and shoots back. Cat is safe on the floor, Dubstep needs to hope he's shooting at Dante but can give me an luck roll (edge) and a couple of rolls to soak damage. Dante can roll a couple of dodge/soak rolls too.
Slacker
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Apr 5 2013, 12:51 PM) *
@Virtual Scream / Noodle house

Surprise round
Cindy warns Dubstep of trouble in the real
Dante activates wired reflexes
Gangers begin to spread out into restaurant
Cat realises bad things are going down

Round 1 phase 1
Dubstep scans for hidden nodes and finds Leader's
Dante deploys pistol and holds action
Gangers move - Chunky to group, Xbox to chinese couple
Cat makes an impression

Round 1 phase 2
Dubstep logs onto Leader's link and snoops around
Dante holds
Chunky smacks Cat
Cat sacrifices 2.1 action to full parry

Round 1 phase 3-5
Dubstep  traces Xbox's link, spams troll porn onto Leader's link, gets attention of IC, leaves node

Round 2 phase 1
Dubstep starts to hack admin account on Xbox's link
Dante uses held action to shock Chunky then shoots Leader and Xbox/
Leader gets back up and shoots back. Cat is safe on the floor, Dubstep needs to hope he's shooting at Dante but can give me an luck roll (edge) and a couple of rolls to soak damage. Dante can roll a couple of dodge/soak rolls too.

Much appreciated.

Dubstep rolled 2 hits on his luck roll (both were 6s in case exploding 6s apply)

In case he still has to resist damage:
He rolled 3 hits on the first one in which case he would spend a point of Edge to reroll failed dice only getting 2 more hits.
He rolled 8 hits on the second one
He rolled 4 hits on a third one just in case.
ChromeZephyr
QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 5 2013, 05:19 AM) *
5.1 ...junker passengers decide being inside is NOT a good place to be.


Oh, sure, now they run away. CT6 is going to be funny, let's see if the bloodthirsty ork can shoot people while car surfing on a driver-less madmaxmobile!
Dakka Fiend
QUOTE (ChromeZephyr @ Apr 5 2013, 08:57 PM) *
Oh, sure, now they run away. CT6 is going to be funny, let's see if the bloodthirsty ork can shoot people while car surfing on a driver-less madmaxmobile!


Thanks for that image. rotfl.gif
Machine Ghost
@Aria, E:Tribes

Should not affect anything, but just to be complete, I think LeO would not get to use vehicle tests to boost accel. For Metahumans at least, that running test requires a simple action. Fine for Scrapheap to turn that free action into a simple to catch the car, but LeO would lose the complex action needed to fire that way. For vehicle/drone, the reference I have is SR4A167/8, which just says to use the vehicle test, with no mention of any action. So LeO movement might? be limited to accel 5 while shooting.

Going forward, I'll also have to remember to consider mixing in passive and active [sensor] targeting SR4A171. LeO has good sensors. Although given how .. obvious .. it is {forbidden, not just restricted}, LeO will probably have to stay close to home. I mean, could you just imagine LeO running air support cover when we picked up LeFey in Bellevue?? NOT a pretty picture!!

LeO is probably going to end up doing a lot of patrol duty around the Mechanicals complex (Day Job), while Sprogget is busy with important things. LeO is also going to be the subject of some IC, until those Gremlins get fixed.

QUOTE (Aria @ Apr 5 2013, 05:12 AM) *
.. snip ..
I think I'd dispute SNS being that useful against a large vehicle like the van, maybe a bike or drone. The orc has 2 IP...he's a Lieutenant after all, couldn't make him too much of a walkover, fat lot of good he's done so far lol.
.. snip ..
That was why the 'twisted' smiley with the comment about SNS.

So mage lieut (lout?) has been doing mostly one attack and one drive test per combat round. Plus maybe a few free actions. Well maybe pumping more lead after will keep him on full defense, so he does not have time to get tricky.

Just in case that whatever that mage does allows LeO to keep shooting, and you are ready to speed up the final combat rounds, here are a few more attack rolls.
[ Spoiler ]
Machine Ghost
@Aria, E:Tribes

Sprogget 5.1 Assessing situation via tacnet, driving monocycle
Sprogget 5.2 pulling up by rammed Americar
Sprogget 5.3 realizing target 1 might just be stunned from the taser shot
- Free action: send mesage
- Simple action: exit Monocycle monocycle node
- Simple action: switch from VR to AR (6 will be with a single IP)
Sprogget 6 head for the doorway where target 1 was last seen
- free action harness quick release
- simple action run test, 0 hits, no gain
- simple action draw survival knife from belt

Running tests
[ Spoiler ]
phlapjack77
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Apr 6 2013, 01:51 AM) *
@Virtual Scream / Noodle house
Leader gets back up and shoots back. Cat is safe on the floor, Dubstep needs to hope he's shooting at Dante but can give me an luck roll (edge) and a couple of rolls to soak damage. Dante can roll a couple of dodge/soak rolls too.

Here's two dodge/soak rolls, let me know if I need to make more:
Dodge1/Soak1
Dodge: Rea(7) = 2 hits
Soak1: Armor(15) + Bod(6) = 6 hits

Dodge2/Soak2
Dodge2: Rea(7) + Prev.Def(-1) = 3 hits!
Soak2: Armor(15) + Bod(6) = 7 hits
JxJxA
Aw man, if the really dangerous ones are inside does that mean I can't be a prick and camp these ghoul d00ds from afar?
onlyghostdanceswhiledrunk
QUOTE (JxJxA @ Apr 5 2013, 11:32 PM) *
Aw man, if the really dangerous ones are inside does that mean I can't be a prick and camp these ghoul d00ds from afar?


you obviously forgot to bring smores hence not being able to camp. >>
Notsoevildm
@Virtual Scream / Noodle house

Round 2 phase 1
Dubstep starts to hack admin account on Xbox's link
Dante uses held action to shock Chunky then shoots Leader and Xbox
Leader gets back up and shoots back. Cat is safe on the floor, Dubstep gets lucky and Dante easily avoides Leader's wild bursts.

Round 2 phase 2
Dubstep finishes hacking admin account on Xbox's link and logs on
Dante is up!
Slacker
QUOTE (Notsoevildm @ Apr 8 2013, 10:17 AM) *
@Virtual Scream / Noodle house
Round 2 phase 1
Dubstep starts to hack admin account on Xbox's link
Dante uses held action to shock Chunky then shoots Leader and Xbox
Leader gets back up and shoots back. Cat is safe on the floor, Dubstep gets lucky and Dante easily avoides Leader's wild bursts.
Round 2 phase 2
Dubstep finishes hacking admin account on Xbox's link and logs on
Dante is up!

Sweet! Wonder what Xbox will be doing to me before I go again?
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