Now that could be an interesting post
I'm already preparing my next post... so if neither of you plan on posting anything, I can just go ahead and deliver that.
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Now that could be an interesting post
I'm already preparing my next post... so if neither of you plan on posting anything, I can just go ahead and deliver that.
Now that could be an interesting post
I'm already preparing my next post... so if neither of you plan on posting anything, I can just go ahead and deliver that.
I don't have anything important planned to post - just chit-chat if Vegas posts a response before you do. After all, Carla is trying to stall until Conall shows up.
I posted... but feel free to jump in
Leaving that post rather open for MJ to jump in.
I figure MJ can jump in at pretty much any point of the conversation.
I'm sorry... but I love doing grand entrances 
Nothing beats kicking down the door of a church
Nothing beats kicking down the door of a church
BlueRondo
No problem finding food in the church - it connects to the rectory in any case, and you have access to everything but the floor the fathers sleep on.
As for taking the edge off the Bliss -
And thanks, Vegas, for pointing this out several times in your posts -
Etain is REALLY wasted right now - everything sort of OFF...slurred, slow, etc.
If you want to fix it, the thing to do would be a Medicine + Logic test, and let me know how you do....Time would be neglible, just a matter of going downstairs and coming up with the right concoction.
No problem finding food in the church - it connects to the rectory in any case, and you have access to everything but the floor the fathers sleep on.
As for taking the edge off the Bliss -
And thanks, Vegas, for pointing this out several times in your posts -
Etain is REALLY wasted right now - everything sort of OFF...slurred, slow, etc.
If you want to fix it, the thing to do would be a Medicine + Logic test, and let me know how you do....Time would be neglible, just a matter of going downstairs and coming up with the right concoction.
Heh. So much for catching up with the IC. Iīll do my best, but with the pace you have been posting and the old IC still left for me to read up on, I might not make it till tonight.
So if Anyone could give me a compressed OOC of what has been going on (only as much as John would have whitnessed it - i.e. did anyone send a message to him of said that the meeting is postponed or moved to another place), I could make my IC tonight, anyway and read the full story later.
So if Anyone could give me a compressed OOC of what has been going on (only as much as John would have whitnessed it - i.e. did anyone send a message to him of said that the meeting is postponed or moved to another place), I could make my IC tonight, anyway and read the full story later.
Basically, Etain found her way to the Sanctuary, where Carla found her and asked Conall for help. So now all three of them are at the church. Most of the posts are just fluff dialogue.
Unfortunately for Krait, nobody told him what was going on, so he's probably at Meg's waiting for Carla and Paddy to show up.
Unfortunately for Krait, nobody told him what was going on, so he's probably at Meg's waiting for Carla and Paddy to show up.
Adamu
Alright, Medicine Test for "curing" Etain
Med (5) + Log (5) + Street Drug Knowledge (1/2) = 10: 2, 6, 6, 6, 5, 3, 5, 1, 4, 1 = 5 hits
Alright, Medicine Test for "curing" Etain
Med (5) + Log (5) + Street Drug Knowledge (1/2) = 10: 2, 6, 6, 6, 5, 3, 5, 1, 4, 1 = 5 hits
When I checked yesterday, Conall had arrived at Megīs like 10 minutes early.
Has this been Edited so he didnīt arrive at Megīs at all, or has he left shortly after arriving (and if you know off the top of your head, at aproximately what time)?
Iīll try to check these things before I post, but in case Iīm overlooking something...
Has this been Edited so he didnīt arrive at Megīs at all, or has he left shortly after arriving (and if you know off the top of your head, at aproximately what time)?
Iīll try to check these things before I post, but in case Iīm overlooking something...
MK Ultra
He arrived at Meg's a bit early, and almost immediately got a call that sent him back out at top speed.
There was some confusion with the time-stamps, but I think it is mostly edited/worked out.
If you just have Krait arrive right on time, there should be no conflict with the posts. No one will be there, and you won't know why, but they are only at around 21:35 or something now...so they are not that late.
If you choose to call and see where they are, please post that at just ahead of whatever time they are all on, so that everything flows nicely.
I think they will all be heading back to Meg's soon anyway.
He arrived at Meg's a bit early, and almost immediately got a call that sent him back out at top speed.
There was some confusion with the time-stamps, but I think it is mostly edited/worked out.
If you just have Krait arrive right on time, there should be no conflict with the posts. No one will be there, and you won't know why, but they are only at around 21:35 or something now...so they are not that late.
If you choose to call and see where they are, please post that at just ahead of whatever time they are all on, so that everything flows nicely.
I think they will all be heading back to Meg's soon anyway.
BlueRondo
With that roll, and with access to a reasonably well-stocked biotech shop, you can pretty much do whatever you want - give her a shot that totally counteracts the drugs (though not the desire for them), if you want. Or whatever.
With that roll, and with access to a reasonably well-stocked biotech shop, you can pretty much do whatever you want - give her a shot that totally counteracts the drugs (though not the desire for them), if you want. Or whatever.
Sorry, work has been mounting up yesterday. I probably wonīt have time to elaborate on Johnīs overday-activeties today (but hopefully tomorrow).
In short, the two options I planed to explore are either finding some dumb fan-boys from whoīs comlinks I might be abled to steal the tickets or some small outfit (news, porn-business or service) whoīs employees would have access and infiltrate that company.
Iīll put up a detailed list of searches and exploits I want to do on 12th between 0800 and 2100 or so, once I have time!
I hope you others donīt mind - at least now you have 10 more minutes to IC without my interference.
In short, the two options I planed to explore are either finding some dumb fan-boys from whoīs comlinks I might be abled to steal the tickets or some small outfit (news, porn-business or service) whoīs employees would have access and infiltrate that company.
Iīll put up a detailed list of searches and exploits I want to do on 12th between 0800 and 2100 or so, once I have time!
I hope you others donīt mind - at least now you have 10 more minutes to IC without my interference.
| QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Apr 25 2007, 03:12 AM) |
| In short, the two options I planed to explore are either finding some dumb fan-boys from whoīs comlinks I might be abled to steal the tickets or some small outfit (news, porn-business or service) whoīs employees would have access and infiltrate that company. |
Just a "you live in this world that I made up, so your character would know how I see things" heads up....
Any dumb fanboy that can afford these tickets can afford the 'ware to keep them fairly safe...not telling you what to do or not to do, just want our vision of the world to be the same.
Oh, and no need to apologize for being busy - happens to all of us. Just post when you have time.
Who knows? Maybe some kid has been saving up his milk money for the past few years just for this event.
Oh, well, I didnīt think it would be an easy hack, like getting in without raising an alert - or even getting in quick without raising an alert. Itīs just the consequences of an alert that are fairly unlikely to be real tough on any private com.
So, unless you say most everyone who can get a ticket has IC and/or Sec-Hackers on their comlink (though of course if you say so, thatīs fine as well), thatīs just what I expected. I was planing to put up a diversion to screen the real purpose of the hack in case I was raising an alert.
Still Iīm aware that this is not really a good plan, and that it wonīt be so easy (if even possible) to actually find some suitable victim, but itīs one of the few that might work with as little time and ressources we have.
EDIT: Iīd also ask Mr. Chu in the morning if he can get a Sniffer (at least retting 2, better yet 3) in this short time and what it would cost. Preferably USED of course!
So, unless you say most everyone who can get a ticket has IC and/or Sec-Hackers on their comlink (though of course if you say so, thatīs fine as well), thatīs just what I expected. I was planing to put up a diversion to screen the real purpose of the hack in case I was raising an alert.
Still Iīm aware that this is not really a good plan, and that it wonīt be so easy (if even possible) to actually find some suitable victim, but itīs one of the few that might work with as little time and ressources we have.
EDIT: Iīd also ask Mr. Chu in the morning if he can get a Sniffer (at least retting 2, better yet 3) in this short time and what it would cost. Preferably USED of course!
Once again, NOT telling you not to do it - just letting you know my "vision of reality." But it sounds like we are on the same page.
And sure, Chu can get you a used sniffer program at that rating right away.
If you want to start with your hacking plan, just assume you can find some likely targets among your collection of Zephyr fan-boys or their acquaintances. Then send me the first string of rolls.
I have no idea whether this plan would be successful, because, aside from a bunch of quick notations on your sheet, I have never sat down and tried to gauge your cracking ability. But I have a good idea of the sort of commlink you'll be up against (sort of how you and I both envisioned).
If you don't want to do the cracking plan, let me know whatever research you do want to do to support whatever plan you make.
And sure, Chu can get you a used sniffer program at that rating right away.
If you want to start with your hacking plan, just assume you can find some likely targets among your collection of Zephyr fan-boys or their acquaintances. Then send me the first string of rolls.
I have no idea whether this plan would be successful, because, aside from a bunch of quick notations on your sheet, I have never sat down and tried to gauge your cracking ability. But I have a good idea of the sort of commlink you'll be up against (sort of how you and I both envisioned).
If you don't want to do the cracking plan, let me know whatever research you do want to do to support whatever plan you make.
just an FYI, I'm cooking up a plan based off what I've picked up you guys are trying to do, but obviously can't suggest it till Etain is filled in if at all
can you guys if you decide to let her in just bring me up to speed ooc'ly here as to not waste back and forth IC?
adamu
can you guys if you decide to let her in just bring me up to speed ooc'ly here as to not waste back and forth IC?
adamu
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Adamu
Allright, here we go, starting at ~0800 on 08/12, which leaves a good 13 hours until the meeting was schaduled.
First searches are as follows. These will take 77 minutes +x
1 Convention-Center layout (I think I allready asked for this, but if I didnīt ...), including floor-planes and virtuel 3d map if possible.
2+x The Centerīs & the Eventīs service-providers (cleaning, on-site tech-support, facility-management, catering, etc.). Looking especially for small sub-contractors. Doing separate searches to find out more about promissing security candidates.
2 Details about Wolverineīs security-measures (how many mages on site, etc.) & their standard MO (shoot first? ask first? self-destruct first?). I know this wonīt be officially known (except maybe, what level the contract is, but IIRCyou allready said it was top-grade), but there have to be leaks, hints and speculations out there.
1 Nature & Securety of the Tickets (i.e. would a users com transmit the same authentification every time it is asked for one, or dos the authentification depend on the request, like say A if you here B, but say C if you hear D; Are they personalized/ID-linked; etc.).
1+x who is sending whome (news & entertainment-lables) +separate searches on small/unknown outfits and their representatives.
x Find possible fan-victims fot ticket-theft (Preferably guys talking about it on-line, so they are vulnerable to hacking without having to find out the com-code).
Depending on what I found out, Iīll have tryed to hack one of the small companies or fans or set up a fan for a con (naturally Iīll be posing as a hot girl, eager to get started in the biz, whoīd be very gratefull for anyone taking her along to that event, or someone whoīd at least show the amateur flicks to agents on the convention - which could be produced on the fly with the help of the fan-boy promoting them). Iīll post that actions (and maybe some more searches) in detail, once you gave me the info above.
Allright, here we go, starting at ~0800 on 08/12, which leaves a good 13 hours until the meeting was schaduled.
First searches are as follows. These will take 77 minutes +x
1 Convention-Center layout (I think I allready asked for this, but if I didnīt ...), including floor-planes and virtuel 3d map if possible.
2+x The Centerīs & the Eventīs service-providers (cleaning, on-site tech-support, facility-management, catering, etc.). Looking especially for small sub-contractors. Doing separate searches to find out more about promissing security candidates.
2 Details about Wolverineīs security-measures (how many mages on site, etc.) & their standard MO (shoot first? ask first? self-destruct first?). I know this wonīt be officially known (except maybe, what level the contract is, but IIRCyou allready said it was top-grade), but there have to be leaks, hints and speculations out there.
1 Nature & Securety of the Tickets (i.e. would a users com transmit the same authentification every time it is asked for one, or dos the authentification depend on the request, like say A if you here B, but say C if you hear D; Are they personalized/ID-linked; etc.).
1+x who is sending whome (news & entertainment-lables) +separate searches on small/unknown outfits and their representatives.
x Find possible fan-victims fot ticket-theft (Preferably guys talking about it on-line, so they are vulnerable to hacking without having to find out the com-code).
Depending on what I found out, Iīll have tryed to hack one of the small companies or fans or set up a fan for a con (naturally Iīll be posing as a hot girl, eager to get started in the biz, whoīd be very gratefull for anyone taking her along to that event, or someone whoīd at least show the amateur flicks to agents on the convention - which could be produced on the fly with the help of the fan-boy promoting them). Iīll post that actions (and maybe some more searches) in detail, once you gave me the info above.
Vegas
If Etain dosnīt get involved either use Laés or consider the following OOC-knowledge.
We are looking for Sister Esmeralda, who vanished about a month (or 1.5 by now?) ago. The search is to be kept quiet.
She is from the Carmelite Order, came from Columbia 5 years ago and worked at the Sanctuary of St. Ignatius as a nurse.
She was very reclusive, fascinated by St. Catherine of Sienna and secretly bullemic (also hit herself with that blunt cat-o-nine, apearently).
We have a picture (face) and tissue-samples (as well as finger-prints). We also assume that she took a bus to downtown (the sub-terranian central bus-terminal) the day she vanished. No signs of force at her place (it actually seems like nobody else ever was at her place).
We have some Information on People that apeared in her (quiet short) address-book.
For now it shoud suffice, that one of them, called Zephyr is most likely a famoust porn-star that is attending to the upcomming convention.
If Etain dosnīt get involved either use Laés or consider the following OOC-knowledge.
We are looking for Sister Esmeralda, who vanished about a month (or 1.5 by now?) ago. The search is to be kept quiet.
She is from the Carmelite Order, came from Columbia 5 years ago and worked at the Sanctuary of St. Ignatius as a nurse.
She was very reclusive, fascinated by St. Catherine of Sienna and secretly bullemic (also hit herself with that blunt cat-o-nine, apearently).
We have a picture (face) and tissue-samples (as well as finger-prints). We also assume that she took a bus to downtown (the sub-terranian central bus-terminal) the day she vanished. No signs of force at her place (it actually seems like nobody else ever was at her place).
We have some Information on People that apeared in her (quiet short) address-book.
For now it shoud suffice, that one of them, called Zephyr is most likely a famoust porn-star that is attending to the upcomming convention.
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Vegas
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Adamu
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| Adamu Allright, here we go, starting at ~0800 on 08/12, which leaves a good 13 hours until the meeting was schaduled. First searches are as follows. These will take 77 minutes +x 1 Convention-Center layout (I think I allready asked for this, but if I didnīt ...), including floor-planes and virtuel 3d map if possible. ADAMU - see main text of this post for link. 2+x The Centerīs & the Eventīs service-providers (cleaning, on-site tech-support, facility-management, catering, etc.). Looking especially for small sub-contractors. Doing separate searches to find out more about promissing security candidates. ADAMU - Most of the core functions are done by full-time permanent staff. For big events, they run a core, full-time management/hospitality team, and have a large pool of part-timers on call. There is in-house security, as well, but they are just minimum wage rent-a-cops, not even armed. Thus the Wolverine contract for this event. The cooking for very large events like this one is done at the Hilton and carted over, with the on-site kitchen just used for some heating and table arrangements. So there will be Hilton staff on hand, but they are all practically part of the convention center family. 2 Details about Wolverineīs security-measures (how many mages on site, etc.) & their standard MO (shoot first? ask first? self-destruct first?). I know this wonīt be officially known (except maybe, what level the contract is, but IIRCyou allready said it was top-grade), but there have to be leaks, hints and speculations out there. ADAMU - the word is that they are badass and not afraid to use deadly force. Then again, regarding this particular job, you heard that another company had this contract last year, and were not renewed because they were too rough on troublemakers, not PR-friendly enough. Apparently Wolverine, while likely coming to this party armed to the teeth, had to assure the event planners that they could handle 'kinder gentler' enforcement with an eye to a good public image. 1 Nature & Securety of the Tickets (i.e. would a users com transmit the same authentification every time it is asked for one, or dos the authentification depend on the request, like say A if you here B, but say C if you hear D; Are they personalized/ID-linked; etc.). ADAMU - There are two kinds of tickets - general and VIP. First, a bit about the event. Basically, the awards ceremony is an excuse for an exclusive sort of porn trade show, much like adult entertainment conventions held in Las Vegas and elsewhere. The main convention center floor will be filled with booths and displays and so on. Private rooms will be used for who-knows-what industry-related business. General ticket holders can access all of this. The actual Awards Ceremony will be in the large second-floor Grand Ballroom. Only VIP ticket holders will be admitted to this part of the festivities. General tickets are electronic, but they are bearer tickets - like certified cred. Anyone with the uncopiable algorithm is the ticket bearer. There are 5,000 of these tickets. VIP tickets are issued to specific SINs - they are invitation only and cannot be exchanged, sold, or whatever. There are 1,500 VIP tickets. Note that the times I gave earlier - for the "red carpet" at 23:00 and the awards ceremony at 00:00 - that is for the VIP awards thing, the part where Zephyr is supposed to be. Whether she is or plans to be in attendance at other times you do not know. The "trade-show" part has been going on all day and will continue until late tomorrow. (also don't forget that you guys are about one hour by freeway from this place down in Fort Lewis) 1+x who is sending whome (news & entertainment-lables) +separate searches on small/unknown outfits and their representatives. ADAMU - not hard to get. Everyone but the most major, respectable networks in the Pacific Northwest will have a media presence (and those that don't will be represented by less dignified subsidiaries). For most of these, you have no problem finding out which "face" they are sending to cover the event (in most cases a very minor reporter). What crews each is bringing is hard to say (naturally with 2070 tech they don't need to be lugging around huge cameras and mics...some crews are only one or two people, but big players may still send seven or eight.) x Find possible fan-victims fot ticket-theft (Preferably guys talking about it on-line, so they are vulnerable to hacking without having to find out the com-code). ADAMU - No problem. Depending on what I found out, Iīll have tryed to hack one of the small companies or fans or set up a fan for a con (naturally Iīll be posing as a hot girl, eager to get started in the biz, whoīd be very gratefull for anyone taking her along to that event, or someone whoīd at least show the amateur flicks to agents on the convention - which could be produced on the fly with the help of the fan-boy promoting them). Iīll post that actions (and maybe some more searches) in detail, once you gave me the info above. |
See in-line.
Here is the plan to the place:
Fort Lewis Convention Center
Anywhere that says Galveston Island = Fort Lewis
Anywhere that says San Luis = Nisqually
The water is not the Gulf of Mexico, it is the Nisqually River.
Seawall Blvd is River Blvd
Everything else should be as shown.
Thanks for the info MK.
So we're all waiting on the twins getting to Meg's right? And y'all are up against a deadline IC'ly for the convention so....
Let me know what else I can do to keep pushing this along
I don't want to see our threads get bumped back to the 3rd page of Welcome to the Shadows anymore
So we're all waiting on the twins getting to Meg's right? And y'all are up against a deadline IC'ly for the convention so....
Let me know what else I can do to keep pushing this along
I don't want to see our threads get bumped back to the 3rd page of Welcome to the Shadows anymore
Ok... moved things forward after a quick chat with MJ.
Just made a "best guess" at how long it'd take them to get back to Meg's Place. If it's too long or too short, let me know and I'll edit timestamps appropriately.
Just made a "best guess" at how long it'd take them to get back to Meg's Place. If it's too long or too short, let me know and I'll edit timestamps appropriately.
I wanted Carla to have a conversation with Krait over their commlinks before the twins arrived, but I haven't gotten a response from MK yet. Maybe I'll just leave a message and have Carla head on over if MK can't post any time soon.
By the way, is Etain still wearing Carla's cloak?
By the way, is Etain still wearing Carla's cloak?
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| Adamu [ Spoiler ] |
Everything here looks fine.
BlueRondo
Nope.. Etain's wearing her jacket, she would have politely left the cloak at the church. Heh.. thanks for pointing that out
MK
So I guess we're waiting for you to post.
Adamu
Cool beans. Sheet's updated then. 16k spent.
Nope.. Etain's wearing her jacket, she would have politely left the cloak at the church. Heh.. thanks for pointing that out
MK
So I guess we're waiting for you to post.
Adamu
Cool beans. Sheet's updated then. 16k spent.
BlueRondo
Sorry. Still didnīt get around to catch up on the IC, thus I didnīt see the incomming call.
EDIT:
I assume Carla will tell Krait about the twins, to wait for them and start planning, so IF I manage to get together an IC before you do, Iīd be inclined to jump right to meeting the twins (we can allways edit, if you had other plans).
Vegas
AFAIK Megīs was ~20 from the Sanctuary by foot! So, unless you planned for Conall to approach it in circles, or stop somwhere else on the way, you should probably edit your timestamp (since we do not actually have much time to waste).
Adamu
I have my hacking actions cooked up in my head and just need to look up a few things and do some rolls - I intended to post this stuff now, but that damn rollplaying got in my way
Iīll put it up asap.
Sorry. Still didnīt get around to catch up on the IC, thus I didnīt see the incomming call.
EDIT:
I assume Carla will tell Krait about the twins, to wait for them and start planning, so IF I manage to get together an IC before you do, Iīd be inclined to jump right to meeting the twins (we can allways edit, if you had other plans).
Vegas
AFAIK Megīs was ~20 from the Sanctuary by foot! So, unless you planned for Conall to approach it in circles, or stop somwhere else on the way, you should probably edit your timestamp (since we do not actually have much time to waste).
Adamu
I have my hacking actions cooked up in my head and just need to look up a few things and do some rolls - I intended to post this stuff now, but that damn rollplaying got in my way
Iīll put it up asap.
All
ok, I will edit timestamps appropriately when I get home this afternoon so that the trip takes all of 5 maybe 6 minutes. you're looking at the twins arriving @ megs at like 42 after the hour or something close to that.
if its 20 min by foot that means we'll all still be waiting on Carla regardless no?
and just thinking ahead a bit... to save time IC, has Krait done research into the TYPE of security Wolverine will be using at all? or just the generics of who is providing security?
ok, I will edit timestamps appropriately when I get home this afternoon so that the trip takes all of 5 maybe 6 minutes. you're looking at the twins arriving @ megs at like 42 after the hour or something close to that.
if its 20 min by foot that means we'll all still be waiting on Carla regardless no?
and just thinking ahead a bit... to save time IC, has Krait done research into the TYPE of security Wolverine will be using at all? or just the generics of who is providing security?
That depends on wether Carla will let me give her a ride (or call a cab herself)
This is what I found out about Wolverine so far:
They do have licenses for lethal force & paracritters, as well as full-time mages on staff. Top ratings in physical and matrix sec. The companies stats are generaly on par with Knight Errant. Wolverine is a bit more costly and personal is not as elite as KE, though close. On the other hand, their standard response-time is 5 instead of 10 minutes.
2 Details about Wolverineīs security-measures (how many mages on site, etc.) & their standard MO (shoot first? ask first? self-destruct first?). I know this wonīt be officially known (except maybe, what level the contract is, but IIRCyou allready said it was top-grade), but there have to be leaks, hints and speculations out there.
ADAMU - the word is that they are badass and not afraid to use deadly force. Then again, regarding this particular job, you heard that another company had this contract last year, and were not renewed because they were too rough on troublemakers, not PR-friendly enough. Apparently Wolverine, while likely coming to this party armed to the teeth, had to assure the event planners that they could handle 'kinder gentler' enforcement with an eye to a good public image.
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Adamu
I need a GM call, to plan my hacking-activeties. How many targets can be probed simultaneously?
p. 221 (Probing the Target) says itīs an extended test (Hacking+Exploit, TH=System+Firewall, 1 hour in VR). p. 218 (Accessing multiple nodes) says (System)x2 nodes can be accessed at the same time, but each action only aplies to one node at a time. If there is a need for a test in a node that the user has accessed but is not currently "active" in, the pool should be just program-rating without the skill.
This is what I found out about Wolverine so far:
They do have licenses for lethal force & paracritters, as well as full-time mages on staff. Top ratings in physical and matrix sec. The companies stats are generaly on par with Knight Errant. Wolverine is a bit more costly and personal is not as elite as KE, though close. On the other hand, their standard response-time is 5 instead of 10 minutes.
2 Details about Wolverineīs security-measures (how many mages on site, etc.) & their standard MO (shoot first? ask first? self-destruct first?). I know this wonīt be officially known (except maybe, what level the contract is, but IIRCyou allready said it was top-grade), but there have to be leaks, hints and speculations out there.
ADAMU - the word is that they are badass and not afraid to use deadly force. Then again, regarding this particular job, you heard that another company had this contract last year, and were not renewed because they were too rough on troublemakers, not PR-friendly enough. Apparently Wolverine, while likely coming to this party armed to the teeth, had to assure the event planners that they could handle 'kinder gentler' enforcement with an eye to a good public image.
EDIT:
Adamu
I need a GM call, to plan my hacking-activeties. How many targets can be probed simultaneously?
p. 221 (Probing the Target) says itīs an extended test (Hacking+Exploit, TH=System+Firewall, 1 hour in VR). p. 218 (Accessing multiple nodes) says (System)x2 nodes can be accessed at the same time, but each action only aplies to one node at a time. If there is a need for a test in a node that the user has accessed but is not currently "active" in, the pool should be just program-rating without the skill.
Ok timestamp is edited on my post.
Should be good to go forward from my point of view.
Should be good to go forward from my point of view.
Adamu
Mh-kay, after reading up on extended tests on p. 58, I think I can answer my own question myself.
It says that -unless otherwise noted or decided by the GM- extended tests can be interrupted to resume the work later. Iīd think thatīs true for probing, too, as long as the interuption dos not last for too long (security will change a bit over the course of days or weeks after all).
So I guess, I can only have my Agent probe one node at a time, but interupt the probing for short periods without a problem.
p. 58 also gives an interesting option: rushing time on extended tests. Doing so reduces the interval-time by half, but increases the risk of glitching (glitch with 50% of dice 1 or 2). Depending on how many potential targets I find, I might use this rule.
So, I need to know more about potential target nodes. You allready said there are planty of ticket-baring fans (thatīs regular, not vip-tickets,since the later ones are linked to their ID and thuss not easy to steal) that might be hackable and also that there are a multitude of small media-delegations.
What I am looking for more specifically are media-guys from small outfits, with unknown faces, that send in teams of 2 to 4 people (preferably people that are new employees) with access to the vip-event. And of course itīs no use to us, if the team is allready on site, so Iīll be looking for teams that donīt plan to be at the convention early.
BTW, are the black-market tickets for 1.5 k the regular tickets or the VIP version?
Also, what means 'uncopyable'? I imagin that each ticket has a verification-number and dublikating thost tickets is no use, since only one copy can be used.
I will analyze the potential targets (Computer+Analyze, buying 3 hits, each) locking for System & Firewall as well as alert status.
For the actual hacking Iīll go to some nice coffin-hotel with decent security
My general plan for the fans is as follows:
-Get some nasty p0rn-spam-cookies (shouldnīt be hard to find and my system should be abled to keep my own pan from being infected).
-Then Iīll break into the fan-comlinks (one at a time, quick or slow depends on how many potential targets with which ratings are there).
-Analyze for alert-status (if an alert has been trigered, infect com with spam-cookis as a diversion. In case of tough countermeasures I might log-off imidiately, but Iīd decide that case by case)
-Browse for tickets
-Copy (not cut) ticket & Edit ticketīs verification-no. on the fanīs com, to make his version useless
My general plan for the medi-angle is as follows:
-probe the 2 or 3 best looking potential targets for admin-access
-What I do next realy depends on what I find on the system and what exactly the plans of that media-team are, asI have to adept to that.
Mh-kay, after reading up on extended tests on p. 58, I think I can answer my own question myself.
It says that -unless otherwise noted or decided by the GM- extended tests can be interrupted to resume the work later. Iīd think thatīs true for probing, too, as long as the interuption dos not last for too long (security will change a bit over the course of days or weeks after all).
So I guess, I can only have my Agent probe one node at a time, but interupt the probing for short periods without a problem.
p. 58 also gives an interesting option: rushing time on extended tests. Doing so reduces the interval-time by half, but increases the risk of glitching (glitch with 50% of dice 1 or 2). Depending on how many potential targets I find, I might use this rule.
So, I need to know more about potential target nodes. You allready said there are planty of ticket-baring fans (thatīs regular, not vip-tickets,since the later ones are linked to their ID and thuss not easy to steal) that might be hackable and also that there are a multitude of small media-delegations.
What I am looking for more specifically are media-guys from small outfits, with unknown faces, that send in teams of 2 to 4 people (preferably people that are new employees) with access to the vip-event. And of course itīs no use to us, if the team is allready on site, so Iīll be looking for teams that donīt plan to be at the convention early.
BTW, are the black-market tickets for 1.5 k the regular tickets or the VIP version?
Also, what means 'uncopyable'? I imagin that each ticket has a verification-number and dublikating thost tickets is no use, since only one copy can be used.
I will analyze the potential targets (Computer+Analyze, buying 3 hits, each) locking for System & Firewall as well as alert status.
For the actual hacking Iīll go to some nice coffin-hotel with decent security
My general plan for the fans is as follows:
-Get some nasty p0rn-spam-cookies (shouldnīt be hard to find and my system should be abled to keep my own pan from being infected).
-Then Iīll break into the fan-comlinks (one at a time, quick or slow depends on how many potential targets with which ratings are there).
-Analyze for alert-status (if an alert has been trigered, infect com with spam-cookis as a diversion. In case of tough countermeasures I might log-off imidiately, but Iīd decide that case by case)
-Browse for tickets
-Copy (not cut) ticket & Edit ticketīs verification-no. on the fanīs com, to make his version useless
My general plan for the medi-angle is as follows:
-probe the 2 or 3 best looking potential targets for admin-access
-What I do next realy depends on what I find on the system and what exactly the plans of that media-team are, asI have to adept to that.
| QUOTE (MK Ultra) |
| Adamu Mh-kay, after reading up on extended tests on p. 58, I think I can answer my own question myself. It says that -unless otherwise noted or decided by the GM- extended tests can be interrupted to resume the work later. Iīd think thatīs true for probing, too, as long as the interuption dos not last for too long (security will change a bit over the course of days or weeks after all). So I guess, I can only have my Agent probe one node at a time, but interupt the probing for short periods without a problem. ADAMU - Agreed. But I have decided that when you make the actual intrusion, the target node gets a +1 die modifier on its test to detect you for every time you took a break, to account for your frequent comings and goings. Other points to note about this process - if one person/agent does the probe, and then a different person uses the exploit for the actual intrusion, that adds another +2 mod for the target node's detection, since understanding of the exploit is not as perfect second-hand. Also note the last paragraph of Account Privileges on p. 216 - personal commlinks are "standard electronic devices" which have no need for anything but admin access - so you will be needing the +6 successes to get privileges on them. (The honest fact is that I think the probe rule is unbalanced, so I am always looking for excuses to NERF it.) p. 58 also gives an interesting option: rushing time on extended tests. Doing so reduces the interval-time by half, but increases the risk of glitching (glitch with 50% of dice 1 or 2). Depending on how many potential targets I find, I might use this rule. ADAMU - that's fine. So, I need to know more about potential target nodes. You allready said there are planty of ticket-baring fans (thatīs regular, not vip-tickets,since the later ones are linked to their ID and thuss not easy to steal) that might be hackable and also that there are a multitude of small media-delegations. What I am looking for more specifically are media-guys from small outfits, with unknown faces, that send in teams of 2 to 4 people (preferably people that are new employees) with access to the vip-event. And of course itīs no use to us, if the team is allready on site, so Iīll be looking for teams that donīt plan to be at the convention early. ADAMU - you can find media teams that fit that profile, but whether they are already on-site or not, or their exact schedules, will be harder to find with a simple matrix search. So I will say you find ONE such team - it fits your profile and you find a post on a public site where one guy bitches that he is going to be late (and miss the whipped cream wrestling exhibition). This team not a broadcast thing, they are for a local Adult Entertainment scream sheet (in Portland OR they had the T&A Times - most big US cities seem to have such a rag available in newspaper dispensers - this one obviously is online or available at public datafax terms). It is just two people, photographer and writer. Both sleazy males. BTW, are the black-market tickets for 1.5 k the regular tickets or the VIP version? ADAMU - regular. Also, what means 'uncopyable'? I imagin that each ticket has a verification-number and dublikating thost tickets is no use, since only one copy can be used. ADAMU - uncopyable as in, cheaper to buy it than copy it. Uncopyable the way certified cred is uncopyable. For numbers, assume copying a ticket (as opposed to stealing/downloading it) is as hard as pirating a rating 6 Agent. That level of copy protection is affordable because the file in question is so small (computer-ignorant GM making up stuff for purposes of game balance - hope it made at least a little sense). I will analyze the potential targets (Computer+Analyze, buying 3 hits, each) locking for System & Firewall as well as alert status. ADAMU - You find two that are 3 System and 3 Firewall. The rest are 4/4 and up. Neither of the 3/3s are on any sort of alert at the time you Analyze them. There are enough 4/4s that you can choose ones not on alert. Again, a lot of these people, judging by their personalities, are probably geeks. And judging by the fact that they bought these tickets, they are probably not poor. And with this huge mass of analysis you are doing, you do not have time to find that one guy - based on reading hundreds of people's online chat habits - that one guy that doesn't know how to protect his comm and is also poor but his pervert uncle gave him the ticket. All I'm saying is that in 2070, while 99.9% of people are not hackers, most know the basics of protecting their comms and paydata. Not saying you can't hack them - you will probably succeed - but these are not going to be 15 minute pushovers just because they are "citizen" port otaku. For the actual hacking Iīll go to some nice coffin-hotel with decent security My general plan for the fans is as follows: -Get some nasty p0rn-spam-cookies (shouldnīt be hard to find and my system should be abled to keep my own pan from being infected). ADAMU - this sort of creativity will get you a +1 on probe and exploit attempts. -Then Iīll break into the fan-comlinks (one at a time, quick or slow depends on how many potential targets with which ratings are there). ADAMU - waiting for the word... -Analyze for alert-status (if an alert has been trigered, infect com with spam-cookis as a diversion. In case of tough countermeasures I might log-off imidiately, but Iīd decide that case by case) -Browse for tickets -Copy (not cut) ticket & Edit ticketīs verification-no. on the fanīs com, to make his version useless ADAMU - sorry - I just do not know what this means. I thought we established that you had to steal/download the ticket/paydata...I assume this is some computer jargon I just don't understand. Sorry, really sincerely sorry, to be so ignorant about computers. My general plan for the medi-angle is as follows: -probe the 2 or 3 best looking potential targets for admin-access -What I do next realy depends on what I find on the system and what exactly the plans of that media-team are, asI have to adept to that. ADAMU - Okay, I think I have given you enough general info that you can send me one of your giant dice-rolling novels. Lot of work for you, but you are pretty much asking for it...have fun. Once I have that I will work my way through it - and hopefully we can resolve your day of matrix fun within a reasonable period of time so we can get back to the rest of the team and our story in progress.... |
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| Other points to note about this process - if one person/agent does the probe, and then a different person uses the exploit for the actual intrusion, that adds another +2 mod for the target node's detection, since understanding of the exploit is not as perfect second-hand. |
But wouldnīt that only apply if Iīm sending my Agent all on itīs own (which would spare me hanging in VR the whole day to supervise itīs actions)? I planned to load the Agent into my own persona and command it directly all the time. Would that still give the node a +2 bonus?
Also, what are the system/firewall/alert-status of that 2-guy screem-sheetīs node?
Everything else looks fine. Forget about that ticket-copying mix-up. I just didnīt get what exactly you mean by 'uncopyable', but now itīs clear.
Iīll still leave as good a bogus of the ticket behind, if I get it. At least manipulating the data-system, so it says the ticket-file is still there though it is not. Iīll make an Editing-roll for that.
Iīll put the rolls together as soon as I have time to do so. (tonight if Iīm unlucky, otherwise, probably tomorrow night).
MK
Any chance you can post in the IC without resolving all the above computer stuff since everyone is kind of waiting on you? I'm thinking just fluffy stuff... like getting Carla and Krait to Meg's or anything? I completely understand not moving forward with plans/discussion or whatever since not everything planned is resolved.
This is me just saying that there are 4 very capable characters who have a lot to bring to the table and Esmerelda doesn't have to be found by one person alone :
Sorry if I sound impatient... but... oh hell. I am *grins*
Any chance you can post in the IC without resolving all the above computer stuff since everyone is kind of waiting on you?
I'm thinking just fluffy stuff... like getting Carla and Krait to Meg's or anything? I completely understand not moving forward with plans/discussion or whatever since not everything planned is resolved. This is me just saying that there are 4 very capable characters who have a lot to bring to the table and Esmerelda doesn't have to be found by one person alone :
Sorry if I sound impatient... but... oh hell. I am
*grins*
I planned to post IC before I do the hacker-work.
Hehe awesome. Didn't mean to come off as a bitch or anything Just wasn't sure if you WERE gonna post before you did OOC stuffs
Just wasn't sure if you WERE gonna post before you did OOC stuffs
Well, a little reminder dosnīt hurt. I planed to do the IC first, but in the end I might have forgotten.
Working on it right now. Just a few minutes - want to give at least a superficial description of how Johnīs looking this week.
If you get something up tonight, I can probably give a quick reply as soon as tomorrow morning my time, before I head out to work.
Working on it right now. Just a few minutes - want to give at least a superficial description of how Johnīs looking this week.
If you get something up tonight, I can probably give a quick reply as soon as tomorrow morning my time, before I head out to work.
Some Perception-Rolls for my entrance scene (Hacking is comming tomorrow)
Since modifires depend on the objects, I canīt aply them myself as usual, just drop the last dice results for that.
Checking the place: 9 hits
Checking Conall: 5 hits
Checking Etain: 6 hits
I also made Etiquette Rolls, to make a good impression on Etain and to put Conall at ease, if he flips or something for me looking at his sister. 3 hits each
Yes - that +2 applies if you send the agent to probe while you go clubbing, then come back and personally use its exploit. If you are monitoring/directing the agent yourself the whole time, then no mod.
4/4/not on any alert
Since modifires depend on the objects, I canīt aply them myself as usual, just drop the last dice results for that.
Checking the place: 9 hits
Checking Conall: 5 hits
Checking Etain: 6 hits
I also made Etiquette Rolls, to make a good impression on Etain and to put Conall at ease, if he flips or something for me looking at his sister. 3 hits each
[ Spoiler ]
Just because MK's doing the social roll thing and has already said Krait goes out of his way to seem disinterested in Etain and is speaking only to Paddy...
(FYI, Unless Adamu rules it necessary, I'm dropping the "intoxicated" modifier. If it applies just drop the last die and it's success taking her to a total of 4.)
Social Counter
Charisma (5) + Perception (2) = 7 dice
[5] [5] [5] 1 3 [6] [5] Hits:5
Adamu
Was there ever a "ruling" concerning "Observe in Detail"? I know the BBB states if you take the Simple Action to do so you're considered "distracted" by whatever task is at hand and you suffer a -2 die pool modifier. I'm just curious (in case I choose to use it in the future, especially during critical perception tests) is it an "obvious" type of action? I mean I'd think you'd kinda be caught "checking someone out" or doing more than just a casual look around if that was the case, especially if it effects other subsequent/simultaneous actions.
(FYI, Unless Adamu rules it necessary, I'm dropping the "intoxicated" modifier. If it applies just drop the last die and it's success taking her to a total of 4.)
Social Counter
Charisma (5) + Perception (2) = 7 dice
[5] [5] [5] 1 3 [6] [5] Hits:5
Adamu
Was there ever a "ruling" concerning "Observe in Detail"? I know the BBB states if you take the Simple Action to do so you're considered "distracted" by whatever task is at hand and you suffer a -2 die pool modifier. I'm just curious (in case I choose to use it in the future, especially during critical perception tests) is it an "obvious" type of action? I mean I'd think you'd kinda be caught "checking someone out" or doing more than just a casual look around if that was the case, especially if it effects other subsequent/simultaneous actions.
Like you all couldn't see THIS coming
Mindlink, Force 5
Magic (5) + Spellcasting (2) = 7 dice
3 [6] [6] 1 [6] 3 4 Hits:3 - Success (just barely!)
Drain Resist 5/2 + 1 = 3
Charisma (5) + Willpower (4) = 9 dice
[5] [5] 4 [6] [6] 2 [5] [6] 2 Hits:6
No Drain
Mindlink, Force 5
Magic (5) + Spellcasting (2) = 7 dice
3 [6] [6] 1 [6] 3 4 Hits:3 - Success (just barely!)
Drain Resist 5/2 + 1 = 3
Charisma (5) + Willpower (4) = 9 dice
[5] [5] 4 [6] [6] 2 [5] [6] 2 Hits:6
No Drain
Without modifires (except distracted) I got 5 hits on perception to notice Etain using magic - there can hardly be enough modifires to make me miss the TH of 1 (6 - Force), though.
So, since he gets it, I made a composure check, to see if he can keep his cool and scored 6 hits, so that seemsto be no problem.
EDIT: Adamu
Any chance I have seen Etain on any of the pictures I screened through, when I checked out Patrick OīDonnal, Iīd imagin she ought to have been on one or the other.
So, since he gets it, I made a composure check, to see if he can keep his cool and scored 6 hits, so that seemsto be no problem.
[ Spoiler ]
EDIT: Adamu
Any chance I have seen Etain on any of the pictures I screened through, when I checked out Patrick OīDonnal, Iīd imagin she ought to have been on one or the other.
Carla's going to arrive around 22:00, so let me know if anyone wants to say anything before making the 15-minute jump-ahead.
"I like cheese..."
Ok, I'm good now. You can move on.
Ok, I'm good now. You can move on.
*looks at Konsaki*
Would you like some Brie?
Would you like some Brie?
Shit, It shouldn't have been a force 5 spell... I don't know what the hell I was thinking of anyway... she doesn't need the 50m radius for the spell.
The whole point in my post was that it was a very *subtle* casting as in for the benefit of the twins. Sorry I screwed the force shit up. I'll just run with it for now I guess.
*reminds herself to pause while posting rolls next time instead of multi-tasking*
BlueRondo
Go ahead and move us forward I suppose. I don't have a problem with it.
The whole point in my post was that it was a very *subtle* casting as in for the benefit of the twins. Sorry I screwed the force shit up. I'll just run with it for now I guess.
*reminds herself to pause while posting rolls next time instead of multi-tasking*
BlueRondo
Go ahead and move us forward I suppose. I don't have a problem with it.
I second Konsaki!!! 
Vegas
Serves you right, you powergamer
(Everyone magically active is a powergamer)
((Well, maybe except the guy with the spell-knack for a spell that needs at least 3 hits to work at all))
BlueRondo
Iīd be fine to move on.
Vegas
Serves you right, you powergamer
(Everyone magically active is a powergamer
)((Well, maybe except the guy with the spell-knack for a spell that needs at least 3 hits to work at all
))BlueRondo
Iīd be fine to move on.
| QUOTE (MK Ultra) | ||
But wouldnīt that only apply if Iīm sending my Agent all on itīs own (which would spare me hanging in VR the whole day to supervise itīs actions)? I planned to load the Agent into my own persona and command it directly all the time. Would that still give the node a +2 bonus? Also, what are the system/firewall/alert-status of that 2-guy screem-sheetīs node? |
Yes - that +2 applies if you send the agent to probe while you go clubbing, then come back and personally use its exploit. If you are monitoring/directing the agent yourself the whole time, then no mod.
4/4/not on any alert
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