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Ankle Biter
I'm saving up for some

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As youcan imagine, at this point an IC justification would be difficult, unless

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DireRadiant
QUOTE (adamu)
DireRadiant

I can't promise you will be the next post I make, but you will be the top priority the very next time I have a chance to sit down for an hour or so.

Take yout ime, no hurry here. Quality > speed.
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu)
QUOTE (adamu @ Aug 8 2006, 09:02 AM)
JDragon


Now, about those pills - it occurs to me they need stats. 
First, they are easy to get from any street dealer, and costs Y300 a dose.(You got on it while you were getting rich, and it has almost the full pain resistance effect of Nitro, WITHOUT debilitating side effects.  Very designer and chic right now.
As noted, they are physically addictive.

Almost immediately upon ingestion, they stop the effects of five boxes each of stun and physical damage.  Lasts one hour.

Per the rules for moderate addiction, you resist cravings with a Body test -4 dice.  You only need one success, but without it you'll do about anything to get the drug.  You need to make one test a day, and also a test every single time you take a wound, stun or physical. 
Fail to resist three times in a row and you up your addiction rating to serious. 

As for withdrawal, kicking, and other fun things, the SR4 rules leave a lot more room for GM discretion and player roleplaying.  Let's just say you've never gone long enough without them to experience withdrawal, though you have gone as many as four days to clear y9our system for a fight.  You are pretty sure that if you go longer than that it's gonna start to hurt.


Great post dude. But we do have to adjust some addiction stuff.

As you can see above, it's not Body + Willpower, it's just Body. That means on the first two days, you take pills. So minus two pills from your stash. (One more failure in a row and you'd've been in Serious Addiction territory.)

As it stands now, there's no serious need for you to edit anything in your IC post unless you feel like it, but note that you are now at five days off the pills, which is longer than you've ever gone - uncharted waters in terms of physical withdrawal.

Right now you are at -1 die on all tests, with a strong sense that it will get better before it gets worse, if you don't take a pill.

IF you get through the withdrawal period, then you won't have to worry about withdrawal ever again provided you don't relapse, but you'll still be a latent addict. That means you'll still have to make a test every three days and every time you get wounded, and if you ever take a pill again, even once, you'll be back to daily checks.
You can continue in that state indefinitely, or we can work on erasing even that, but it would be a long-term project involving either karma or serious role-playing efforts.
Can't say at this time how long your physical withdrawal will last or how bad it will get.

All that said, looks like you are off to a great start on your addiction recovery.

As for what you find out in public listings on Crusher 495 - it is an ork/troll dive just outside Touristville in Redmond (just a few blocks into serious E-zone neighborhood). If you have the original Seattle book, that will give you some idea of the place. If you have the New Seattle book, forget it - its brief period as a tourist joint are dead and gone.

Adamu,

Just wanted to check on how we are doing the rules for the Addiction tests. Per the rules for Addiction on Page 247 & 248 "physical addiction is resisted with a Body + Willpower Test." (the "+ Willpower Test" is on the second page nyahnyah.gif )

Now are we doing these pills differently than normal addictions? If so not a big deal just wanted to check, so I know whats going on. I missed the fact you had it listed as Body only when you first posted the rules for the pills and you had not said anything when I did my tests during the fight.

As for the rest on the addiction stuff sounds good, I'll continue to make the daily checks until you let me know otherwise.

Thanks

JD
DireRadiant
Adamu, Awesome! I wasn't sure myself how I wanted the Underground Cell stuff to work out, but that was a great sequence. I'll respond IC later today.
adamu
JDragon

Sorry about all the confusion. You did indeed roll both body and willpower during the boxing scene, and I did not catch it. A review of my own OOC post showed me saying that it was a physical test, but I didn't say anything about the dice you'd used, so that makes it my bad.
As far as the RAW goes, the rules you quote are for determining if an unaddicted character gets addicted when using a drug. The rules on page 80 for already-addicted characters state body and/or willpower, which I take to mean one or the other.

So there we are. Sorry for having inadvertantly set a confusing precedent.
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu)
JDragon

Sorry about all the confusion. You did indeed roll both body and willpower during the boxing scene, and I did not catch it. A review of my own OOC post showed me saying that it was a physical test, but I didn't say anything about the dice you'd used, so that makes it my bad.
As far as the RAW goes, the rules you quote are for determining if an unaddicted character gets addicted when using a drug. The rules on page 80 for already-addicted characters state body and/or willpower, which I take to mean one or the other.

So there we are. Sorry for having inadvertantly set a confusing precedent.

Adamu,

Ok, that all makes sense now, just wanted to make sure I was clear on it.

Thanks for the info.

JD
Abbandon
First Wave, Warren

Im not being impatient or anything I just wanna make sure you know im waiting for a reply post. I just never said anything OOC about my last post so maybe you didnt see it.

If its not my turn in the cycle its kool. I just didnt want us both to be waiting on each other.
adamu
QUOTE (adamu)
pragma/Abbandon/JDragon

Just confirming that you guys are going to be doing some posting now.

Near as I can tell, JD will be doing some shopping/hiding/meditating,

pragma will be doing some relocating, and initiating some investigation stuff,

and

Abbandon will be rehabilitating and initiating some investigation stuff.

Ball in your courts, but I just wanted to confirm that none of you were waiting on me for anything (this is not a "HURRY UP!" message, just trying to be helpful). If you are waiting for something, let me know.

Abbandon, posted this about a day after you latest OOC post to let you know to go ahead and start doing the things you want to do. If you have questions, I need you to ask them, and I need to know HOW you asking and WHO you are asking. If it's the rehab first, just go for it.
MK Ultra
2nd wave, John

I am confused. I meant to offer Ian opera tickets for friday night, so he´s got something to do, while I´m at work and then meet with him the next day - have some drinks, go clubbing (thuss I posted my arrival at around 8 pm on saturday in the Al Coda club).
If the opera tickets are for saturday and I´m going to attend it with Ian, that´s fine, but the Timestamps are still off in that case.
So how will we go on? should I simply edit my timestamp, so I arrived at Al Coda 17:55 and asume we will head to the opera from there around 19:00 or 19:30 (with the show starting approximately 30 minutes later)?
I´ll simply do so now, to save us some time (we can still change it later).

BTW, what about the day off for my staff? Is it ok if I simply subtract one day from the 4 days I have allready collected for the Sierra task?

Here is the 2nd roll for the Scuddar task (the week starting on Sunday the 3rd).

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So I´d have enough hits (including the CAS guy) on after tuesday the 7th. I´d be ok to put the last two days into extra scruteny to find as good and trust-worthy a head-candidate as possible, though (even if it dos not have hard mechanical effects in the form of additional bonus dice or s.th.). Then it would be Saturday the 10th, that this task is resolved.
DireRadiant
Harriet - Third Wave

Not sure what the next step would be, I can see several things happening. One being that Harriet actually needs to go along to steal the explosives. And then there's the whole getting "erased" business, and what follows after that... In any case, definately a reactive situation.
adamu
DireRadiant

Actually, I thought the way you handled the explosives was perfect - no need for Harriet to be hands on, saves us the trouble.

You have entered the transition phase. Your karma refreshes and we are now all about getting your sheet finalized and getting you to mid-August.

I will post an IC springboard soon, and also maybe PM you about some things if I need to clear anything up about your final sheet.

By the way, you mentioned that you had not known about the Or'zet glossary in SOTA64. If you don't have it, someone recently posted it on the SR4 board - go to the orxploitation thread and it's dated Sept 20 1:14 pm. All the Or'zet I use if from that list.
adamu
DireRadiant

Okay, you'll be declared dead in the accident soon. They'll wait a few weeks and erase your SIN completely. You'll want that cyber you bought. They'll be eager to use you someday, but want to keep their distance for a while. For now, they need eyes and ears and influence in the shadowrunner community. The IC for all this is on you - need you online by mid-August.
MK Ultra
2nd wave, John

There we go with a little composure test to keep the calm, along with a perception roll, to see if anything else is amiss (in my experiance, the 'physics engine' of dreams is often flawed and details tend to be different, making them easy to recognice the moment one becomes lucide).

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Abbandon
First Wave, Warren

I had asked Kyle a couple of followup questions in the car ride home. I will put it in a spoiler here:

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Also do you wanna dscribe Kyle's house or should I? Im thinking my rehab will be condensed down and my condolecne things will be in a review perspective.

Sorry for holding us up on stuff Kyle probably doesnt know
Konsaki
Caittie - Third Wave

Healing test for stun damage (1 hour extended test)
body + will = 8 dice
6,6,5,6,4,5,2,1 = 5

Ok, I want to use 2 days IC to just keep it from being "Here is your new SIN, now I have a job for you" with no time in between. Caittie is going to try and create a sprite on each day and register it. She is also going to be running (exercise) and reading online textbooks to keep her body and mind sharp.

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Summary of 2 days:
Rank 5 Crack sprite (Registered) /w 3 tasks
Rank 3 Machine sprite (Registered) /w 8 task
(Full heal afterwards)

I'm planning for this to be Caittie's last actions before the call. I'll write out a IC thing if this plan is ok with you, adamu.
adamu
Konsaki

Everything looks great. Freezing now is exactly what I was just intending to ask you to do today. Hopefully won't take more than a week of real time before I have enough other ducks in a row to have something happen to you in the game. I appreciate the patience in advance.
adamu
Abbandon

You are right, Kyle has already told you everything he knows about Doc Wagon. I definitely appreciate that you are going to ask around about some things, so I plan to continue to prioritize responses to your IC posts. We want you at mid-August ASAP.
Everything but the asking around or research or whatever can be handled by you - Kyle's place, rehab, condolences, all is fluff. Have a ball.
adamu
QUOTE (MK Ultra)
2nd wave, John

BTW, what about the day off for my staff? Is it ok if I simply subtract one day from the 4 days I have allready collected for the Sierra task?

Here is the 2nd roll for the Scuddar task (the week starting on Sunday the 3rd).

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So I´d have enough hits (including the CAS guy) on after tuesday the 7th. I´d be ok to put the last two days into extra scruteny to find as good and trust-worthy a head-candidate as possible, though (even if it dos not have hard mechanical effects in the form of additional bonus dice or s.th.). Then it would be Saturday the 10th, that this task is resolved.

MK -

Everything there looks good, except that I think you are on a different 2070 calendar than I am. As a point of reference, the IC date of Saturday 8 Feb is correct. So by the time you are meeting with Ian, the Scudder thing is all sewn up beautifully and you get your CAS bonus.

Don't worry about the staff day off - that's fluff. I am keeping careful track of how much rest you get, though.
adamu
Karma

Okay, the nature of this board has changed. Whereas for a couple of months I was hitting everyone pretty regularly in a fairly periodic rotation, now I have five people that are essentially self-directed, while the stories of the others are moving at very different paces for a variety of reasons.

This makes it very difficult to proceed with the karma parameters I originally laid out. I am thinking hard about how to balance 1) karma inflation, 2) the freaking AMAZING level of play I have been seeing from ALL of you, and 3) the unique nature of the online medium.

My goals in awarding karma are to reward

A) Good roleplaying.
B) Solid tactical play.
C) Consistent posting.

These are unchanged. But due to the irregular nature of things in their current generally transitional phase, I am going to experiment with a new karma system. I will now be PMing you with 1 or 2 point awards whenever I see something that stands out in the three areas above. I will not be doing one big karma dump on Saturdays. When I see some great examples of the above three points, or major goals completed, I will PM with a small award right then.
We'll see how it works. I'll change it if it doesn't (and feedback is welcome). It will certainly change in any case once people get into the 'regular' mode of play - which is not far off at all for almost half of you.
Ankle Biter
Not sure, it looks like you may be giving yourself a harder job. I freely admit that a lot of the stuff I was able to do with Dashwood was becasue of the banter we got going, it may get hard for you to ensure that everybody gets a similar chance to shine.

You may want to keep your own notes on who you have given what and see if anybody ends up skating ahead, and perhaps simultaneously give a few IC nudges / hooks to any who get behind.

also
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adamu
Ankle, thanks for the suggestions. I think they will be very useful. And I PMed you back.
MK Ultra
QUOTE (adamu)
QUOTE (MK Ultra @ Sep 21 2006, 05:46 PM)
2nd wave, John
Here is the 2nd roll for the Scuddar task (the week starting on Sunday the 3rd).

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So I´d have enough hits (including the CAS guy) on after tuesday the 7th. I´d be ok to put the last two days into extra scruteny to find as good and trust-worthy a head-candidate as possible, though (even if it dos not have hard mechanical effects in the form of additional bonus dice or s.th.). Then it would be Saturday the 10th, that this task is resolved.

MK -

Everything there looks good, except that I think you are on a different 2070 calendar than I am. As a point of reference, the IC date of Saturday 8 Feb is correct. So by the time you are meeting with Ian, the Scudder thing is all sewn up beautifully and you get your CAS bonus.

Oh, that´s right of cause, I somehow mixed up the date. But the Scuddar task isn´t done one 8th allready, is it?
I only got 7 hits for the '1st week' (Double-Friday and Saturday). so 12 hits will be collected by Tuesday the 13th of Feb. However, I´d use the full 2nd week (from Sunday to Saturday the 15th) and aply the 2 hits to a quality candidate.

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Don't worry about the staff day off - that's fluff.  I am keeping careful track of how much rest you get, though.


Damn, every day off costs me 1M nuyen.gif nyahnyah.gif
adamu
MK Ultra

Right - I'm so worried about getting the day of the week right, that I'm seven days off on the day of the month. Totally wrap up current task by 15th.
JDragon
Angus - Second Wave

Adamu,

Ok, my plan is to start at the bar, get a drink drop a good tip and ask for Smithers, if I get an indication I'm on the right path I'll drop Bruno's name.

Will I need any rolls? Or do you just wnat me to do that IC?

JD
Ankle Biter
Electra - First wave
Dashwood was right in suspecting my 'loss of spirit', but I got him to outright say that he was not intending to harm my family, and had not done so, so

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Do I think he's telling the truth?
Abbandon
First Wave, Warren

Im working on a mammoth post. I thought I was almost finished but then I remembered i had to cover a whole other month but that will be easy.

I plan on entering the shadows and getting my gear and my fake identities/licenses, getting my apartment, getting a few of my contacts and then sitting around waiting until august when things start to get going.

Is that alright?

I will use Cali @ club rain to get hooked up with one of my other contacts and then go from there.

edit* well i posted my rehab and condolences segment. Now im working on july and finding my own place and trying to get set up in the shadows. I kind of turned Kyle into a professional thief who is strictly small time. You will see how it plays out and can tell me to change it afterwards.

adamu
JDragon

I'll just need one etiquette roll for your conduct and demeanor in this place.
adamu
Ankle Biter

You sense no deception.
MK Ultra
2nd wave, John

At the moment I have no other business to talk with Ian, so I´d wrap up the night if he dosn´t have anything substantiel to reply.

Gladly Sunday won´t see much work as per regular work schedull. I plan to have Manolo check on my Sleep-Regulator (I start to get the impression it has suffered serious stress wink.gif).

Next week will probably see regular work schedull and then I might take a day or more off (and maybe get a bioware-specialist under exclusive contract wth RFS to have a look at my sleepregulator - compleat with sleep lab and stuff).
Vegas
*falls to the floor laughing*

Thanks Adam, the "Better than a Cybernetic Chastity Belt" comment made me spit 7Up. At least it hit the floor and not the laptop biggrin.gif
adamu
Vegas

Could you do a quick (or long- whatever) about your date with Patrick on the 29th? Anything okay - whatever seems suitably romantic. If you want to talk to him about anything that you don't want to assume the answers to - just cue me up.
Otherwise, could you include his inviting you to sup with his parents in a few days?
And if you do post through the whole date, could you stop at about the point he is escorting you to your door?
Thanks, Adam.
adamu
Vegas

I am to please.
Vegas
Yeah I'll get something up probably tomorrow since I have to be at work in 5 hours. Plus I'll have to think up something suitable for a "date" since I haven't been on a real one in like ummmm forever nyahnyah.gif

I will definitely abide by your wishes and stop at the escorting to the door point.
adamu
MK Ultra

Ian doesn't have anything on all that family stuff. So you can wrap the scene or just move to the next.

With the Scudder thing ending, think about what task your workdays will go toward.

On the sleep regulator issue -

Isn't Manolo doing volunteer work at one of the Mayhurt's clinics? We didn't establish dates on when he would be back, just that I wanted to be involved in his debrief scene.

So we need dates on that if you are going to consult with him medically.

If you do the 'full work-up' thing with the cyber specialists, that will cost you a day of work.
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu @ Sep 24 2006, 05:00 PM)
JDragon

I'll just need one etiquette roll for your conduct and demeanor in this place.

Angus - Second Wave

Adamu,

Ok here's my Etiquette roll.

Charisma (3) - Default (1) - Withdrawl (1) = 1 dice

5 = 1 hit

I'll add a 200 nuyen tip to the tab for the drink.

JD
MK Ultra
2nd wave, John

Ok, I´ll wrap up the night in my next IC.

I think I didn´t mention it but I thought Manolo would start his visit to the clinik on Monday the 10th (beginning at the start of the week). It´s of cause possible, that he allready went there early. Depending on how it goes, he´d stay there for one or two weeks.
adamu
pragma

Snakes on a Plane!!!

(Intentional, or subconscious comic genius?)
adamu
BlackHat

Dude, that last IC post leaves the ball in your court on next thing you do.

Note that there will be no answer at Shwen's number. If you go to her place you will see that that girl was livin' large. And Freddie and a bunch of other thugs are there shepherding her and some luggage into a limo. If you approach, Freddie will give you a 'Do Not Push Your Luck' shake of the head, at which point you could do what you like.

Tyisha will be very grateful. Post it however you like.

Sally will be delighted to see you, especially if it's not so late.

Post away.
adamu
JDragon

Dude, what I should have said when I asked for the etiquette roll was for you to also present you approach to finding Smithers, either IC or OOC. But I didn't, and rather than wait another post cycle I went ahead and ICed a little ways.

Anyway, now you've found him, go for it.

Right now, if at all possible, daily posts would be very good - even if they are very short. I am prioritizing responses to you right now, and hopefully we can get a 24-hour turnaround going and have you in 'regular' play by next week sometime.
adamu
MK Ultra

What I need before Manolo gives you his assessment is to know what you have said to him already.

1) What did you tell him was the reason(s) for asking about the regulator?

2) Have you told him about the dream(s)?

3) In how much detail?

and also,

4) I need to know whether he has access to your complete medical history, and does that include your psych history?
adamu
QUOTE (adamu)
DireRadiant

Okay, you'll be declared dead in the accident soon. They'll wait a few weeks and erase your SIN completely. You'll want that cyber you bought. They'll be eager to use you someday, but want to keep their distance for a while. For now, they need eyes and ears and influence in the shadowrunner community. The IC for all this is on you - need you online by mid-August.

DireRadiant

Dude, just wondering if you saw this. It was kinda small and nestled up against a longer post to you.

If you did see it, IGNORE this message - I am NOT trying to rush you. This is a 'just in case you didn't notice it' precaution.
DireRadiant
Working on a post. Minor writer's block as I try and work through what might be a good scene or two. And I don't usually post much on weekends.

Though I have figured out a medium term goal, which is that Harriet will work on getting a VCR someday and become a Rigger. Whether or not we get there, no big deal, but you have to have goals to work towards.
MK Ultra
2nd wave, John

QUOTE
1)  What did you tell him was the reason(s) for asking about the regulator?


I´ll tell him that I fell asleep without knowing (or else had bouts of daydreaming or possibly even hallucinations) after I used the Sleepregulator excessively to boost work performance.

QUOTE

2)  Have you told him about the dream(s)?


I´ll have told him -though verry reluctantly- about the content of the dreams, especially anything regarding Louisa Mayhurst-Washington.

QUOTE
3)  In how much detail?


I´ll tell him in as much detailas he askes for, though I´ll play down everything that hints to having troubles with my concience.

QUOTE

4) I need to know whether he has access to your complete medical history, and does that include your psych history?


Manolo will have full access to this knowledge. I´ll even speculate that this even was allso spawned by melfunction of the sleepregulator (wich had been implanted a year ago and had ben quiet new to the market at that time).
pragma
QUOTE (adamu @ Sep 25 2006, 08:32 AM)
pragma

Snakes on a Plane!!!

(Intentional, or subconscious comic genius?)

Intentional, I'm afraid. I Couldn't let the opportunity slide.
JDragon
QUOTE (adamu)
JDragon

Dude, what I should have said when I asked for the etiquette roll was for you to also present you approach to finding Smithers, either IC or OOC. But I didn't, and rather than wait another post cycle I went ahead and ICed a little ways.

Anyway, now you've found him, go for it.

Right now, if at all possible, daily posts would be very good - even if they are very short. I am prioritizing responses to you right now, and hopefully we can get a 24-hour turnaround going and have you in 'regular' play by next week sometime.

Angus - Second Wave

Thanks for doing the IC to keep things moving. I'll do an IC today for dealing with the guards.

As for the daily posts, I should be able to do that, but as you mentioned they may be short, but I'll do my best to keep up with what ever we've got going on.

JD
Abbandon
First Wave, Warren

Ok I got Kyle and Warren in a car on their way to meet Ezekiel for all the fake ID stuff Warren will ever need.

Did Warren ever lose his old fake SIN from almost dieing twice? I want his new fake SIN name to be Bob Michaels. I definately have to have all my fake paperwork before i go house hunting and shopping for firearms so I will handle that stuff afterwords.

It looks like from my sheet I only need 1 fake sin(r-4), and 3 fake licenses(r-4) for ammo, my wired reflexes, and for the smartlink in my eyeballs. At character creation i went through my gear and tried to see what was resitricted or illegal and i believe thats all of it. I hope there isnt anything i forgot because i dont even have character creation dollars left lol.

I guess i want Ezekiel to tell me about the arms dealer guy whose name will be Dave Anderson (who has friends call him Davey). It would be kool if he has loyalty 2 because he likes the weapons Warren picks out and the mods he has made to them.

I'd like for you to hand things back to me after the meet with ezekiel. I wanna get an apartment before i start buying weapons and stuff. And I just realized how painful it will be to have to drag around a big light machine gun around everywhere with me on a bike (like impossable).
adamu
Abbandon

You didn't lose your old fake ID, but the idea is you've been using it for so long, and in a legit corp job, it might as well be real for all practical purposes. So Kyle will suggest you get it scrubbed.
If you don't want to do that, fine, but then it will count as the fake ID you paid for with BP, since you got that first one for free under the assumption you would scratch it to become a Shadowrunner. So your choice - keep Warren ID, or scratch it and get Bob Michaels.

As for the three licenses you have already paid for, I think you are on the right track. You can't get a license for the machine gun anyway, as you seem to have already noted in the rules. That being the case, you might consider forgetting about a license for its ammo, since you aren't likely to be carrying any around without the gun anyway, and instead get a drivers license. Up to you, of course.

Another licensing thing - the one piece of cyber that you cannot get a license for is the one that's easiest to detect, so you might want to think about whether there is much point to getting the other two cyber licenses.
adamu
Abbandon

Okay, that post will do for our purposes, but I left it real open so that if you want to add anything to it you can make a parallel post - basically the same scene only from your POV. Just please don't add new information about Ezekiel. Up to you whether you want to do that or move on.
DireRadiant
Why do I sense a visit to Crusher 495 in Harriet's future?
adamu
JDragon

By the time you get to Crusher you are -2 dice on all tests, and it is getting worse.
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