Just noticed something really strange.
When I have ammo selected on the gear tab and I change to another item the quantity doesn't change.
It stays at 240 instead of showing the quantity for the newly selected item.
As soon as I change to another item the quantity changes to the correct quantity for the newly selected item.
It only seems to not update properly when changing from Ammo to another item.

I'm going to say no to this, largely because the Category for a given skill is the suggested Category, not the only possible one. What might be an Academic skill for one character might be a Professional or Interest for another. The Knowledge Skill list basically works the other way: select a Skill and it changes the Category list to the most likely one. Changing this around so that the Category limits the Skill list would mean you'd need to keep changing Categories to see if a particular Skill exists in the pre-defined list since their Categories aren't always that intuitive.

I'm working on making one right now. The character is basically going to be played like it's an android instead of as a hacker. Going to be using an anthroform drone as it's home, use firearms the way others do, etc. Data like instead of a roving piece of software. I think this is probably the best way to play an AI character. Not the only way, but I think it fits better into a group than anything else.

Most likely physical attributes will end up being based on the way cyborgs work

Overall I think the only things that are missing is Inherent programs, and designating a home node.

Sounds good.

You shouldn't ask for that : this is our job to make that disappear. Otherwise, I told you how to use Xpath to remove that, you can use ctrl+H too in the result.xml.

(I agree for / have nothing to say about other items)
Not in AR, the source is SR4 I think (in monday's gear.xml I even couldn't find it for SR4, but before maybe deurk asked you a removal)
Ok, this one is errated out in french version. "hardened" is the hardening electronic option from p.58, so if you put it for these ones, you could put it for all electronic items I think, and having the difficult task to have two rating on the same item.
Ok, but it is "buyable" from the gear tab. Maybe it should be hidden and only callable by Chummer when the mod "Improved sensor arry" and replace only a large sensor.
I don't think that : in that case, the item named "clothes" is not an armor aswell. And you could wear like 10 swiming suits without a malus.
I think you should put them there just for the ease of use and solving questions like : "what items are destroyed if somebody shoot me" and "hey I can't use an armor, I'm wearing my desert suit".
Esprit means "spirit" in french. It means also ghost, but never alcohol as in english.
Remember it from ghost meaning : think of it as a sprite. Take the last E, put it front
It's a male word, btw : "un esprit" or "l'esprit".

Wich word comes from wich langage, I don't know. I think this comes from french and got to english but I'm not sure (hundreds years of war quite shuffled our languages
I think this is like the rocket of SR4, not a chummer/WAR! warhead. If it were a warhead as in your warhead category (chummer/WAR! -made), it would have a '+' in front of some of its caracteristics. It got an own damage code, I think it would be ridicoulous to roll twice the damages. It comes with a static price. The seeker warhead have a '+' price, as all add-on. And War! got released way back after Ars.

Flavour text says : "This is an anti-personnel warhead for use against people. It is similar in function to fragmentation grenades and rocket warheads."
SR4 324 (nades) says "Fragmentation Grenades: These are designed to spread a cloud
of deadly shrapnel over a large area, seriously injuring soft targets. Their
damage value reduces by –1 per meter from the point of the explosion’s
origin."
SR4 325 (rocket/missiles) says "Fragmentation: Used principally against people, the warhead discharges high-speed metal or plastic-metal fragments designed to tear into unprotected flesh. These rockets/missiles are very effective against unprotected individuals, but fairly ineffective against barriers, structures, and vehicles."

Would it be possible to have "Standard Electronics" added to vehicle/drones mods and have it standard on all of them.
Then allow both "Standard Electronics" and "Modular Electronics" have plugins added to them?
The plugins being: Upgrades to Pilot, Firewall, Response and Signal. As well as Autosofts, Drone Autosofts, and Matrix Programs
The "Standard Electronics" would only allow for upgrades of up to +2 and "Modular Electronics" would allow for any upgrade.

Having things this way would help clean up some of the clutter that can develop with vehicles and drones.

Would it be possible to have a separate vehicle/drone character sheet? Since they have their own damage tracks.
Also if you upgrade the Pilot rating of a vehicle or drone it has no affect on the character sheet's list for the pilot rating. It still displays the default.

Maybe adding something to the xml to vehicles that lists the defaults for the Pilot and related attributes and then treat that node within the xml like a commlink. just add a new attribute to the xml that is modular and have it as a checkbox for modular electronics. If it's checked the vehicle has one less mod slot and can have comm upgrades greater than 2, otherwise it doesn't.

You're right. Not sure what I was thinking. They are a separate item. Mortar, Fragmentation was already in Gear and Weapons. Not sure why I thought and had a separate mortar head for it as well. Updated the Gear file to correct this.

The Extra-Large Vehicle Sensor, along with the other Sensors, can still be purchased on their own for gear-heads who want to have swappable sensors, salvage sensors from a wreck, etc.

Camera Neutrlaizer has been in the file for a long time. In the English book at least, it's on AR 59 and not in the SR4A book.

For 0Y ? My rigger player will takes 100's of them if that's free.

I was speaking about gear.xml. It's ok on today's gear.xml.

The Sensor package cost nothing and people are required to be honest with the way they are used.
Within the rules, to have a sensor package that is larger than the size of the drone you need to have the Improved Sensor Array vehicle mod.
The cost of the Improved Sensor Array does cost
Chummer doesn't check to see if the Sensor package added is too large for the vehicle or drone or for that matter too small.

What I would like to see is the sensors put in it's own xml that includes it's rating along with a boolean called improved. Have that boolean be a checkbox for improved sensor array.
Have the sensor show up as a seporate node within the tree with it's size either be equal to the vehicle or drone size and have it be that +1 if improved is true.

Would you please add the same options for price to Mods as are available for gear.
That being Free! and Markup. The base item that's being modded might not be free or have a different cost but the mod itself might.

How do you change it's capacity? It's defaulting to 10 and the weapon it's being used in has a capacity of 24.
Also when you buy ammo as a plugin for the Ammo Box/Drum or Spare Clip the Quantity is set to 10 and you can't change it.
On top of that it also changes the quantity of the Ammo Box/Drum or Spare Clip to be 10 if the quantity is less than 10.

The Ammo Drum/Box and Spare Clips are just meant to be placeholders to show that you have them. Adding actual Ammo to them isn't a good idea since Career Mode can't find them in there (it looks for Ammo items on their own). Trying to associate Clips/Drums/Bins with Ammo for a specific Weapon makes things rather complicated.

You can always set the quantity of an item to whatever number you'd like. A lot of the ammo increments in 10s when you click the arrows, but it will allow you to type any number into the field and calculate appropriately.

I believe the number going back up to 10 is part of the same problem you mentioned earlier of the quantity field not updating properly. That should be fixed in the next update.

Right now, both these items let you add things to them as a plugin, so maybe that should be disabled for these items.

The latest build has Markup and Free! for Vehicle and Weapon Mods when in Career Mode like the other windows.

Thanks for fast update! There is another thing i've found.

For the "Latent Awekening" quality there is no option to aktually "awake". Even if I just swap the quality against the quality i want (Adept, Mystic-Adept and so on) there is no option to improve the magic-attribute if - and here comes the point - you have already lost essence. I guess the chargen relais on that the char has not gained a magic-attribute during char-creation and flags the char as mundane.

greetings from germany, CitM

Nebular, we are close to a new release for french fr.xml and fr_data.xml. What is missing is adv/disadv for mentor/paragon and there's a few remaining problems with cyberware.
(@skinlink : it's a strict item (SR4 p.328, no ess loss) and @Shotgun w/ Flechettes : this comes from the shotgun ammo. There's no implant that comes with flechettes and one without. The given stats SR4 p.345 (flavour p.344) are for combat (no price, no ess loss).

Are you a courageous man and / or have courageous friends ?

Other gear has it in creation mode, but vehicle and weapons mods do not.

Could you please add the ability to move items on a vehicle around, say using Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down or something similar. This would help with keeping items together as you add/remove mods, gear etc.
or holding down the Ctrl key when dropping an item there by placing it before or after the item it's dropped on. or something similar

How about having translation files under a language subfolder with separate xml for each category, just like in US?
Maybe under lang/fr/ for example?

I stand corrected! I had actually played this way initially, and at some point there was errata or something (maybe player outcry?) that lead me to believe this had changed. I actually like this rule much better, as it makes more sense than it would otherwise, and explains why everyone doesn't just start the game with an armor jacket.

Nothing should have it in Create Mode, although I see right now that Vehicles does. The problem with it being in Create Mode is that markups should not affect the item's actual market value, only the amount of Nuyen you spend on it. Create Mode only knows to look at an item's cost and deduct that from the character's starting Nuyen amount, as items never record what their markup amount is. I'll be removing the Markup field from Vehicles in Create Mode.

Jazz and I had talked about that before and we figured that since the core data doesn't change a whole lot in terms of adding new items (unless I miss an item or screw up a name or a new book comes out), it simply wasn't worth it to break them into 25 smaller translation files. That's a lot of extra files to manage for whomever is translating, and a lot of extra files for me to track, version, and deploy. It gets even worse if more languages get thrown into the mix. It would also me re-writing most of the Language Manager and a considerable chunk of the XML Manager and the validator.

This one isn't doable because Vehicles are mixed content: Vehicles, Vehicle Mods, Weapons (plus Weapon Mods and Weapon Accessories), Gear, and Cyberware. Each of those primary object types is its own self-contained list of its own object type. The best it would be able to do is reorder within a given type, and even then it's only direct children of the Vehicle itself. (This is also why when a save file is loaded, the Vehicle list shows all of the Mods first, then all of the Gear, etc.)

There's a bug when equipping the Analyze program with program options.
Somehow the capacity for options is allways zero regardless of the Analyze program rating. Funny, because it works correctly for all the other program types...

-CJ

Edit: Sorry, if that has been answered before, but how can I run a commlink with a custom OS? When I buy Firewall and System as plugins to a commlink from the Matrix Programs tab the ratings aren't used in the commlink stats. And when I buy them from the Commlink OS Upgrade tab the ratings are used for the commlink, but a firewall rating 6 now has an availability of 16, which is also wrong...

Can't seem to be able to use accented caracters in sheets (î, ë, ...), any idea why?

Jazz and I are proudly releasing today what might be the first full Chummer translation, based on all French available material.
Here are the required files (that do verify both verification processes you put in place Nebular):

• UI
• Data

Once the small glitch with the caracters sheets using accented caracters is fixed, people will also be able to use translated printable sheets:

• Shadowrun 4 Base (FR)
• Shadowrun 4 (FR)
• Game Master Summary (FR)
• Text Only (FR)

Just send you a message with the updated sheets. Two of them had accented characters that look like they were copied from somewhere that didn't encode them properly. I'm hoping I put in the right characters. I've found it easiest to just use the Character Map application that comes with Windows to grab accented characters.

Very nice! It is indeed the first translation for Chummer. Well done guys, that was a ton of work!

Looks like I missed adding the Capacity information to Analyze. I've updated the Gear file to correct this. You will probably need to remove the Analyze program from your character and re-add it so it picks up the change.

The Firewall and System Matrix Programs are just programs themselves, they're not designed to modify the Commlink itself. In order to modify a Commlink, you need to add the Firewall and System items from the Commlink Operating System Upgrad Category. There are the ones that directly affect Commlink stats. From what I can see, Avail of 16 for Rating 6 appears to be correct. Because they're hardware upgrades, they use the Hardware Upgrade Costs Table on SR4A 222, which shows Rating 6 of any Response/Signal/System/Firewall as being Avail 16.

There are perfectly good reasons why gear or vehicles would be more (or less!) expensive than baseline during character creation.

Could there be a way to have a "price modifier" field in gear and vehicles in Create mode that simply adds or subtracts from the Nuyen pool separately?



-k

Ok, fixed them. Links are still pointing to the latest (now fixed) version.

I don't get it ^^

It's quite a lot of work! There is a lot of terms to translate, lots of mistakes specific to language versions that are to be dealt with, some content that is not even available in the original version to take care of, and A BUCKLOAD of page references (since all page references are usually different from one language edition to the other).

But with a bit of time, a few motivated friends, all the german resources and motivation, it can be done (and it feels great when it is, I can now get my GM on it!).

We're available if you have questions or need help, I can't do much about translation though, I do not understand a single word of German.

I dont even want a german version, we use english sourcebooks so it would be a shitload of work to translate even for us german people
Things i have mentioned are all bugs in english version of chargen ;=

Edit: But if you need help in translating into german, i guess i could help you out a bit. But at the moment it makes no sense at all to work on a german version of chummer, we dont even have all sourcebooks translated and its seems that wont change in brief.

If changing the sort isn't possible would it be possible to put a node in the vehicles for the categories, mods, weapons, gear, etc, so that you can collapse, expand what you want to see and not see. this might make vehicles carrying lots of stuff easier to navigate.

Yeah, most germans clever enough to play Shadowrun also know decent english(i know of only a few exceptions).

Having Enemies listed twice Under Negative Qualities and Enemies is complicated. I would suggest that it only be displayed in one place.

I have a character that I created a couple of days ago and was working on yesterday. When I opened the character it had -96 BP remaining. It should have 14. The right hand list shows the right amounts, but for some reason the total is completely wrong.
If I delete everything it does two things. Edge shows up as costing 15 points. It's at it's max since it's an AI. Nothing I'm worried about, Free Spirit PCs might have the same problem. Two I have way less BP that I should have. 168 remaining. Add 15 for Edge and 110 for AI and there is a lot missing.

I can recreate the character, but I don't want to if the same thing is going to happen.

Edit: Just noticed, when I create a new character it doesn't start with 400 BP even though that's what the window says to start with it's getting 165 after paying for metatype and the 15 for edge.
Free Spirits are even worse, they start with -235 remaining after race and 15 for edge.

Other races don't seem to be affected by this.

Hm, when starting, Chummer shows me an (unselected) French data file, but doesn't download it. Selecting it changes nothing, as all the buttons are still inactive. Clicking the close window button starts chummer, but next time the screen pops up again and has to be closed manually.

Edit: Ah, checking for updates manually from Chummer allowed me to select and download the update. Perhaps worth to have a look at, anyway.

I'll remove the Enemies total from Negative Qualities on the Build Point Summary tab. I can see where that could be fairly misleading.

Free Spirits are a little nutty. When you first create one, you should have 15 BP left. The Metatype costs 250 BP right away. This gives them a MAG (Force) of 2, and all of their Attributes have a minimum of 2 and maximum of their MAG (currently 2). This immediately starts them off with all of their Attributes being at the Metatype Maximum which costs an additional 15 BP (9 * 15 = 135 which brings them down to their 15 remaining BP right off the hop). Raising MAG to 3 suddenly refunds a bunch of points because their Metatype Maximum has now been raised. This brings them back up to 140 BP remaining which is the correct amount (400 - 250 for Metatype - 10 for 1 point in MAG).

A newly created A.I. should start with 275 BP remaining. The Metatype costs 110 BP and EDG is another 15 BP because it starts at its Metatype Maximum of 1. Raising any of the Mental Attributes frees up 5 BP since EDG is then no longer at its Metatype Maximum.

Both of these are the numbers I am getting on my person copy (non-development) which seem to be correct.

Do you have automatic updates turned on? I thought I had fixed this before - it should completely ignore updates for language files you don't have installed - but I'm guessing the automatic update process doesn't like it because it's seeing something that can still technically be downloaded.

Edit: Fixed!

Is there an easy to to verify, and/or re-download files without having to download the zip and re-install?
because what I'm getting is way different than what you are getting.
The items on the right side are all displaying properly but the total at the bottom is completely way over what it should be. The amounts appear like it's counting the metatype twice in my total. 165 for AIs and - 235 for FP.

If anything then it will be the Metatypes file that might have something wrong in there. In your Chummer\data directory, delete metatypes.xml, then run the update. Grab the Metatypes data file and you should be set (and an application update if there's one available just to make sure we're running the same version).

KeyMasterOfGozer is going to see if he can put something interesting together for a Vehicle/Drone sheet.

I deleted all the datafiles and got the same result. Moved all the custom files out of the folder. Same result.
I guess I'll wait till there is an update to the app and see if downloading a new one fixes the problem.

awesome.

That's really weird. While it shouldn't change things that drastically, are you using a different settings file at all? Could you send me screenshot of the window when you create a brand new A.I. so I can see what it looks like?

Edit: If you could send me the settings file you're using a well, that might help (Chummer\settings directory). Then I'll have the same options set as you just in case it's some weird combination of things in there that might be causing it.

I figured out the bug.
It's the "Metatypes cost Karma equal to the BP x.
It's using the multiplier even when the character is built on BP and two it's looking at the check box even though it was unchecked and going straight to the multiplier.
When I changed the multiplier back to 1 it stopped doubling the cost of the metatype. What's really strange is that it was only doing this for AI's and Free Spirits.

Well that ain't good! And on to the top of the bug fix pile it goes!

Build 236

• fixed an issue that caused a Metatype's BP cost to be multiplied by the Karma multiplier when building a character with BP
• Echoes and Metamagics now support Quality requirements
• added a checkbox to the Select Metamagic window to show only Metamagics/Echoes the character can take
• Knowledge Skills no longer ask for a Karma expense confirmation if the cost is 0 Karma (improving a Language with the Linguistics Adept Power)
• A.I.s now have the Ergonomic and Optimization Program Options added to Matrix Programs for free
• Markup field is now correctly hidden in the Select Vehicle window in Create Mode
• fixed an issue that could prevent the Gear Qty field from being refreshed properly when selecting a different item in Create Mode
• Enemy BP is no longer included in the Negative Qualities BP total on the Build Point Summary tab since it already has its own field
• Update window no longer stays open if automatic updates are enabled and there are optional languages that are not installed but can be downloaded

New Strings

• Checkbox_SelectMetamagic_LimitList
• Checkbox_SelectEcho_LimitList